well thanks guys
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From: Born/Raised North East, MD Lived in VA, NC, MI Back in Yorktown, Va
1Slo Camaro,
I hate to be honest with you, but you won't get anywhere near 500 at the crank let alone rear wheel. Your goal is IMPOSSIBLE
You want to build it yourself, use stock heads (that you plan on porting and designing?), fit all this within $5-7k including suspension because you don't want to spend 2K on heads? You want to run mid to low 10s on top of it? You want a bunch of people who have never done it to tell you how it is done? You want to prove to everyone that you can do what can't be done?
Are you trolling? Why don't you just ask us how to get your car to the moon as it might be easier for you to reach that goal.
YOU NEED TO RESEARCH and be REALISTIC!!!!!
I hate to be honest with you, but you won't get anywhere near 500 at the crank let alone rear wheel. Your goal is IMPOSSIBLE
You want to build it yourself, use stock heads (that you plan on porting and designing?), fit all this within $5-7k including suspension because you don't want to spend 2K on heads? You want to run mid to low 10s on top of it? You want a bunch of people who have never done it to tell you how it is done? You want to prove to everyone that you can do what can't be done?
Are you trolling? Why don't you just ask us how to get your car to the moon as it might be easier for you to reach that goal.
YOU NEED TO RESEARCH and be REALISTIC!!!!!
are you kidding me? i said 5-7 just are a guesstimate. and damn i really dont think its that far off. looking at suspension i see maybe 2k 2500. so that leaves what 3-5 for engine? and damn its just a number. i know its gonna cost alot. im not dropping it all at once its gonna be over time. im just curious.
did i post up "Hey if you dont have a 500HP lt1 come in and tell me how to?"
your a ******* retard i post on LS1tech.com these quesitons cause i know there are 500+HP N/A LT1s and hoping they would jump in.
Read the entire thread before you jump in and start talking ****. everyone posting on this page has been here since the starting and actually most from the last one lol so do us all a favor and go jump off a bridge. <<< i guess that was a lil harsh so i should apolo...... **** that its the internet. DEAL WITH IT
...and people have gone 11's with only bolt-ons multiple times when it seems most can't even get into 12's without a cam. That doesnt make the hotcam any better then it makes the stock cam good.
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So I think it's safe to say we've all learned that dyno numbers don't mean everything, and that it takes more than just horsepower to get down the track quickly. But gosh are dyno's lots of fun. I remember when I saw my car on the dyno for this first time with the J-trim installed:
Unfortunately this car is a "street" car and not a track car and has proven very difficult to get down the track. I guess it's somewhat of a dyno-queen/roll-race machine!
And to the O.P., if you really wan't a 500RWHP N/A LT1 it can definitely be done. You have to be serious about it though and be prepared to have a lot of patience and dish out a whole lotta cash! Good luck with your build!
Unfortunately this car is a "street" car and not a track car and has proven very difficult to get down the track. I guess it's somewhat of a dyno-queen/roll-race machine!
And to the O.P., if you really wan't a 500RWHP N/A LT1 it can definitely be done. You have to be serious about it though and be prepared to have a lot of patience and dish out a whole lotta cash! Good luck with your build!
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From: Born/Raised North East, MD Lived in VA, NC, MI Back in Yorktown, Va
DAMN MAN awesome numbers!!!!!! thats badass but yea i know its gonna cost a pretty penny but im not expecting it to be built over night. lol
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Having seen the 500 rwhp AI car in person, I can say that it drives idles fine and right where everyone else's idles, much lower than 1500 RPM. I can also tell you that car made 38X rwtq right around 3000 RPM.
Put someone with experience with a manual behind the wheel of that car, and you'll be seeing its taillights get smaller and smaller as it pulls away from you.
We went 11's on motor 11 years ago with that cam back when nobody was able to go 11's without a 383. Its plenty enough cam for the vast majority of this board to reach their goals.
Put someone with experience with a manual behind the wheel of that car, and you'll be seeing its taillights get smaller and smaller as it pulls away from you.
We went 11's on motor 11 years ago with that cam back when nobody was able to go 11's without a 383. Its plenty enough cam for the vast majority of this board to reach their goals.
Coulda Shoulda woulda.................yada yada.
I have been 10.58 he has been 10.89, the numbers dont lie Him with 300lbs LESS weight and 60 MORE RWHP. The driver is part of the car. I cant help it if cant drive it. On the vid I saw looked like he drove it ok to me?????
Let me put my car at 3300lbs(his weight) with the correct converter in it and watch it go 10.20's@130 with LESS power than he "supposedly" makes...... again. Coulda shoulda woulda.
What was the weight of the hotcam car that went 11's? What was the ET?
Hell there has been a cam only LT1 car go 11.18 (I think), doesnt mean everyone can do it. Why couldnt you?
I wouldnt put a hotcam in my toilet and flush it if I got it for free. The cam technology has grown by leaps and bounds since that thing came out.
So I think it's safe to say we've all learned that dyno numbers don't mean everything, and that it takes more than just horsepower to get down the track quickly. But gosh are dyno's lots of fun. I remember when I saw my car on the dyno for this first time with the J-trim installed:
Unfortunately this car is a "street" car and not a track car and has proven very difficult to get down the track. I guess it's somewhat of a dyno-queen/roll-race machine!
And to the O.P., if you really wan't a 500RWHP N/A LT1 it can definitely be done. You have to be serious about it though and be prepared to have a lot of patience and dish out a whole lotta cash! Good luck with your build!
Unfortunately this car is a "street" car and not a track car and has proven very difficult to get down the track. I guess it's somewhat of a dyno-queen/roll-race machine!
And to the O.P., if you really wan't a 500RWHP N/A LT1 it can definitely be done. You have to be serious about it though and be prepared to have a lot of patience and dish out a whole lotta cash! Good luck with your build!
Bet its hard to deal with from a 60 roll on though. Pics of the car? Would love to see it.
Coulda Shoulda woulda.................yada yada.
I have been 10.58 he has been 10.89, the numbers dont lie Him with 300lbs LESS weight and 60 MORE RWHP. The driver is part of the car. I cant help it if cant drive it. On the vid I saw looked like he drove it ok to me?????
Let me put my car at 3300lbs(his weight) with the correct converter in it and watch it go 10.20's@130 with LESS power than he "supposedly" makes...... again. Coulda shoulda woulda.
What was the weight of the hotcam car that went 11's? What was the ET?
Hell there has been a cam only LT1 car go 11.18 (I think), doesnt mean everyone can do it. Why couldnt you?
I wouldnt put a hotcam in my toilet and flush it if I got it for free. The cam technology has grown by leaps and bounds since that thing came out.
I have been 10.58 he has been 10.89, the numbers dont lie Him with 300lbs LESS weight and 60 MORE RWHP. The driver is part of the car. I cant help it if cant drive it. On the vid I saw looked like he drove it ok to me?????
Let me put my car at 3300lbs(his weight) with the correct converter in it and watch it go 10.20's@130 with LESS power than he "supposedly" makes...... again. Coulda shoulda woulda.
What was the weight of the hotcam car that went 11's? What was the ET?
Hell there has been a cam only LT1 car go 11.18 (I think), doesnt mean everyone can do it. Why couldnt you?
I wouldnt put a hotcam in my toilet and flush it if I got it for free. The cam technology has grown by leaps and bounds since that thing came out.
I still don't understand why you keep insisting on comparing your car to one single car with a completely different drive train like the dyno #'s are can even be compared between the 2 setups. When I was had nitrous on my old h/c setup I was making 500+rwhp/+550rwtq at the wheels and I went 125 mph in the 1/4. I've had that setup h/c setup on 5+ different dyno's and they were all within 5hp of each other so it wasn't a high dyno.
Comparing dyno #'s between different drivetrains is useless unless you are trying to boost your ego for some reason.
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Bad *** numbers, but this is a prime example of all the power in the world that you cant do ANYTHING with at the strip. I applaud you. But would like to see it with the front wheels 6 inches off the ground drilling down a 1.2x 60 foot and running deep into the 9's. But thats just me.
Bet its hard to deal with from a 60 roll on though. Pics of the car? Would love to see it.
Bet its hard to deal with from a 60 roll on though. Pics of the car? Would love to see it.
Read the entire thread before you jump in and start talking ****. everyone posting on this page has been here since the starting and actually most from the last one lol so do us all a favor and go jump off a bridge. <<< i guess that was a lil harsh so i should apolo...... **** that its the internet. DEAL WITH IT
Your porting design will probably flow great up to about .800 lift, youll want a 276/288 @ .050 .830/.790 on a 118 lsa, 102 icl trust me it'll run great on the street with a 3200 stall
So you're comparing E.T's instead of trap speeds for your power argument? I still don't understand why you keep insisting on comparing your car to one single car with a completely different drive train like the dyno #'s are can even be compared between the 2 setups.
When I was had nitrous on my old h/c setup I was making 500+rwhp/+550rwtq at the wheels and I went 125 mph in the 1/4. I've had that setup h/c setup on 5+ different dyno's and they were all within 5hp of each other so it wasn't a high dyno.
Comparing dyno #'s between different drivetrains is useless unless you are trying to boost your ego for some reason.
I still don't understand why you keep insisting on comparing your car to one single car with a completely different drive train like the dyno #'s are can even be compared between the 2 setups. When I was had nitrous on my old h/c setup I was making 500+rwhp/+550rwtq at the wheels and I went 125 mph in the 1/4. I've had that setup h/c setup on 5+ different dyno's and they were all within 5hp of each other so it wasn't a high dyno.
Comparing dyno #'s between different drivetrains is useless unless you are trying to boost your ego for some reason.
If you will read his post, it implied Aleks car would outrun mine, it wont.
With more rwhp and less weight that car should have NO problems running low 10's@130mph. If it IN FACT has 500rwhp.
I said it once I will say it again, weight is weight HP is HP.
95 Formula ran low 10's at Aleks weight with LESS rwhp in a stick car. It ran 131+ mph
95 Formula-10.39@131.6, 95 Formula M6 355, stock crank, eagle rods, ross pistons. 12.5 cr, Ported GM LT4 heads, ported/welded lt4 intake, Cam motion solid roller, 25x/26x@50, 3300 ish race weight.
Here is what I am saying, If I was at Aleks weight I would run 129-130mph with less rwhp(441 unlocked the only time it was dynoed)
95Formula ran 131mph AT Aleks weight with LESS rwhp Its a stick car.
Can you do the math on what thats telling you? Aleks car is not making 500rwhp, it makes 450-460 rwhp.
His car runs well, its VERY fast for a 355. Just is (in my opinion) not making 500rwhp. Even at 450-460 its damn impressive. I dont care what the dyno says. This is my hangup.
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yea it pretty much strayed away from any type of useful advice on my build.
but no biggie, ill try and figure out what i can and i have about 3 people that are pushing close to what i want so im gonna try and beat some advice out of them. lol 