View Poll Results: Would you buy ARP LT! Pressureplate bolts if made?
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ARP Pressure Plate Bolts....
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I was gonna leave this thread alone, but a couple of the comments made are mind boggling.
You guys that don't think a torque wrench is necessary on something like a clutch...sheesh!
If it rotates, you torque it...PERIOD. That SOB is spinning at ENGINE SPEED, and weighs, what, 15 pounds or so? And you want to invite the damn thing into the car with you? I bet you don't use seat belts either because of your extreme driving (snort) prowess.
I've been doing this for 37 years now (yeah, I'm an old fart). If it spins or reciprocates, or directly restrains motion of any sort I use a torque wrench. Why? Because after 37 years of experience I know that it's impossible to be consistent enough to not use one, and that applies to anyone on the planet. If you think you can "feel" within 20% of the required torque from fastener to fastener, you're absolutely kidding yourself, and testing by SAE and others confirms this. Mind, now...in this particular instance that would be about 4.5 ft. lbs. On a daily driven grocery getter, it wouldn't matter so much, but that's not what we're dealing with here, is it? We flog these cars. We abuse them. We push the **** out of them, trying to go faster and faster.
Get rid of the Col. Steve Austin syndrome, and use the stupid torque wrench before you hurt yourself, or worse yet some kid watching you go down the track when your clutch explodes at 7000 RPM...because you were TOO STUPID FOR WORDS!
Apologies in advance for any hurt feelings, but you guys REALLY hit a hot button.
You guys that don't think a torque wrench is necessary on something like a clutch...sheesh!
If it rotates, you torque it...PERIOD. That SOB is spinning at ENGINE SPEED, and weighs, what, 15 pounds or so? And you want to invite the damn thing into the car with you? I bet you don't use seat belts either because of your extreme driving (snort) prowess.
I've been doing this for 37 years now (yeah, I'm an old fart). If it spins or reciprocates, or directly restrains motion of any sort I use a torque wrench. Why? Because after 37 years of experience I know that it's impossible to be consistent enough to not use one, and that applies to anyone on the planet. If you think you can "feel" within 20% of the required torque from fastener to fastener, you're absolutely kidding yourself, and testing by SAE and others confirms this. Mind, now...in this particular instance that would be about 4.5 ft. lbs. On a daily driven grocery getter, it wouldn't matter so much, but that's not what we're dealing with here, is it? We flog these cars. We abuse them. We push the **** out of them, trying to go faster and faster.
Get rid of the Col. Steve Austin syndrome, and use the stupid torque wrench before you hurt yourself, or worse yet some kid watching you go down the track when your clutch explodes at 7000 RPM...because you were TOO STUPID FOR WORDS!
Apologies in advance for any hurt feelings, but you guys REALLY hit a hot button.
Last edited by fleetmgr; Jul 31, 2009 at 12:16 AM.
Thank you for your input. I agree that the clutch is just as important as any internal engine component, and as mentioned before I'm very **** about using a torque wrench on everything. Every bolt has a specified torque for a reason, fatigue, stress location, size, etc. If you over tighten a pressure plate bolt there's a higher likelyhood that that bolt can snap at any given moment. Hence why I want to have a quality fastener, torqued correctly, holding my clutch together rather than have it come apart, and take my feet off.
-Kevin
-Kevin
I used grade 8 hardware store bolts on mine for 2 years!
But I never knew that ARP did not make these - I am doing a blower build and am now a bit nervous about throwing grade 8 bolts back in.
But I never knew that ARP did not make these - I am doing a blower build and am now a bit nervous about throwing grade 8 bolts back in.
I've heard of alot of people snapping them putting them back in. The only reason mine broke was because I was trying to torque them to LS1 T56 Specs.
yeah i just got some grade 8 bolts at a nut and bolt place. they usully get ppl like us in the looking for bolts that gm does not make anymore. the ones i got were the same length but they had alot more thread on them. i am waiting for the engine to come back so i can try them out. they only ran me $2.50 for 6. also i broke my old one when it was only a 1/4 of the way in. then i had to get the old one out and rethread the flywheel.
Because Mcleod claims they don't make them for standard style LT1/LT4 PP's Just their Street Twin clutches (yes I looked into every possibility before posting this up).
-Kevin
-Kevin
They said they make stock replacements, I posted the part number on the first page. They are around $60 a set.
Mcleod PN you posted on the first page is not even in Mcleod's catalog, not to mention they told me that number does not exist. It Most likely is a prepackaged set of stock GM bolts that are no longer available. If you have a link to said bolts through some distributor please post it up. As it stands right now there is no aftermarket replacement for the Pressure Plate Bolts.
-Kevin
-Kevin
-Kevin
-Kevin
