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Old 08-11-2009, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by beatmeofficer
....optispark is so bad it gave me cancer.
optispark so good its 13y/o on my car and functions like it was made yesterday
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Old 08-11-2009, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
optispark so good its 13y/o on my car and functions like it was made yesterday
until you just typed that... lol
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
For me, I'm eventually building a powerful street car. I find it pointless to build a car JUST for drag racing at the strip. TO EACH IS THEIR OWN though.
Cool. The same applies to LSX guys. Not all of them build drag cars. My statement was made in regards to the potential of the platform. There is no reason that you can't build a strong and reliable LTX street car.
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I agree.. if you can't mess with people on the street it kinda is no fun..
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Old 08-11-2009, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BLWNV10
The type of block your running really doesn't make it unfair. That's no different than swapping out the stock internals on an LT1 for aftermarket forged pieces. Once you change those internals anyway that block is no longer stock anymore. And FWIW, the 6.0 iron blocks that most of the really quick LS1 guys are running are infact GM LQ4/LQ9 "factory" production blocks, part of the LSX family. LS1's can't help it if they have more options to choose from lol. The LT1 is still a very respectable motor and as we in here know has a lot of potential. There's just too many good examples of LTX cars for anyone to say otherwise.

I'm not sure how quick the quickest stock-block car is running but I know some guys have ran really fast with the LS1 block. Here is one example:

This car cuts 1.2 60-footers and traps 135mph with no power adder, the stock LS1 block and stock cubes!

https://ls1tech.com/forums/single-di...ort-block.html
Sure it does matter 99.999% of LTXs are the same blocks(not full short blocks) that came in F-bodies. Not true for LSXs. They may be factory parts but that NOT what came in the cars. Thats like saying My Lt1 is stock because I have a stock LS7 in it????

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Oh why not a 6sec LTx, if you can do 7s on a factory LT1, why not go 6s with a huge LT1 from DART wich is supossed to be way better/stronger than a factory block.
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I've never lost a race to a lsx car...its funny tho when you spank a 383 ls1 car with a 200 shot of nitrous
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Old 08-11-2009, 12:51 PM
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Apples to oranges.

Who cares? Fast is fast. Slow is slow.

This is about personal preference in the end.
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Just build a respectable car and the shat talking ends. My car is not the fastest thing on earth but runs well. When it did the LT jokes stopped (locally). Now I joke more then others because they know I'll say "lets run".
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^^There ya go. Build it to have fun.
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Old 08-11-2009, 02:39 PM
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Hey:

Its not really about LTX VS LSX. People with LSX based cars appear to have more disposable income to spend on the car they own. I dont see this as much in the Vette forums because the cars changed so much for the better when they introduced the LSX C5 cars.
The f body guys cars are very much alike platform wise and easily converted from one to the other. The chassis mods are mostly the same, and all but the front catfish face body mods are the exactly the same. So how do you justify the more money you spend on the LSX cars, by putting down the only real difference in them other than brakes, the motor. It must be better its newer......,

When it comes down to it, its about $$$$$ money$$$$$, if you spend it you go fast, if you don't you won't. Priorities and knowledge, just make a difference on how much you spend or don't. The best bang for buck was the LTX based cars but the way prices are dropping on the LSX cars around here at least, thats changing, 2000 z28 on raliegh, nc. craiglist in vg condition, $4,000, and has not sold for a few days. #1313068862. for 1 example. The way the economy is going, the real bargins may just be around the corner....Then Choose your weapon wisely the LTX cars may no longer be the best bang for the buck.....

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Originally Posted by AChotrod
Sure it does matter 99.999% of LTXs are the same blocks(not full short blocks) that came in F-bodies. Not true for LSXs. They may be factory parts but that NOT what came in the cars.

You can say the same thing about any of the parts on our cars that aren't stock. The LQ/LS are of the same family. I think a better comparison would be bolting on a set of higher flowing LT4 heads onto an LT1 car.

Originally Posted by AChotrod
Thats like saying My Lt1 is stock because I have a stock LS7 in it????
As you know LT1 and LSX are not interchangable. Two completely different things. Not the same as comparing an LS1 to LQ4/9 block.

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Im talking factory original blocks and blocks only. The LTx doesnt have a bigger interchangable Factory block or any aftermaket blocks. So to keep it even I would have to say a fair comparison is blocks that came in f-bodies only. LT1 block and a
f-body LS1 block. Doesnt matter if truck blocks or aftermarket blocks are intechangable or not, those blocks didnt come in any F-body from GM and all the LTX builds did.
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^^Yea, I agree. There is really no comparison between a 350 LT1 and a 364 LQ4/9.
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Who cares , both get owned by BB's.
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Originally Posted by 97blkz
Who cares , both get owned by BB's.
Damn....your right!!!! lol!!
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
Im talking factory original blocks and blocks only. The LTx doesnt have a bigger interchangable Factory block or any aftermaket blocks. So to keep it even I would have to say a fair comparison is blocks that came in f-bodies only. LT1 block and a
f-body LS1 block. Doesnt matter if truck blocks or aftermarket blocks are intechangable or not, those blocks didnt come in any F-body from GM and all the LTX builds did.
THANK YOU! that is the reason i started the thread
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Pretty new here. Figured Id chime in on this thread since I pretty much got shunned in my new member area (whats the chances of that being because I own an LT1??? LOL) My buddies that have Camaros all own LS1 cars and I wont lie and say I didnt want one, but for the price difference, I have just as much damn fun in mine as they do theirs. And Ill second that as far as the underdog. Id rather be the guy in traffic that makes some LS1 guy wonder if Ill rip his @ss than be the guy thats driving the "almighty LS1" and wondering If Ill get mine ripped by the "lowly Lt1". . . . Boils down to what you can afford. I felt pretty good about what I paid for mine, who cares if its a half second slower. . . . .
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Its not only what you can afford. I could of had any car I wanted and still bought my LT1 after owning both LT1/LS1 Formulas previously.
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True dat^^

I could have paid the exact same price for an ls1 car 30mins from my house, but instead I drove 28hrs to pick up my LT and I dont regret it. It's what I wanted
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
Its not only what you can afford. I could of had any car I wanted and still bought my LT1 after owning both LT1/LS1 Formulas previously.
True. . . . Meant that was the case in my situation. . . .
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