LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Does this sound like a bad fuel pump?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 01:42 AM
  #1  
hitmanws6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,041
Likes: 5
From: Orange, CA
Default Does this sound like a bad fuel pump?

2 days ago my car became hard to start. It would crank for 4-5 seconds before starting. But once started it ran fine. I noticed it doesnt sound the same when priming. This is only from a cold start btw. Warm start its fine. Im not down on power, idle isnt fluctuating. Im going to change the filter, but it was changed less than 4K miles ago. What do you guys think?
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 08:50 AM
  #2  
fleetmgr's Avatar
TECH Addict
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,012
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Default

Sounds like it. Put a gauge on it and see.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 09:15 AM
  #3  
koolaid_kid's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,023
Likes: 1
From: Indianapolis
Default

I wouldn't bother with a filter. Just put a gauge on it and see. Autozone might even have one in their loaner program.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 10:35 AM
  #4  
derekderek's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 404
Likes: 0
From: Dothan AL for now
Default

Prob the check valve in the pump has a slow leak so every time you go to start it it has to reprime itself. I think it is fairly coming try priming it acouple times first before tring to crank see if that solves it. Also with the gauge you will be able to tell once the car shuts off if it holds pressure or not.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:24 AM
  #5  
ss.slp.ls1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,184
Likes: 28
From: Orange County, CA
Default

I got a gauge man. Head over to Anaheim tonight and I can check out your pump for you. You can check out my trap door too.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:27 AM
  #6  
hitmanws6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,041
Likes: 5
From: Orange, CA
Default

Originally Posted by derekderek
Prob the check valve in the pump has a slow leak so every time you go to start it it has to reprime itself. I think it is fairly coming try priming it acouple times first before tring to crank see if that solves it. Also with the gauge you will be able to tell once the car shuts off if it holds pressure or not.
that does help it, i prime it twice and it starts right up
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:28 AM
  #7  
hitmanws6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,041
Likes: 5
From: Orange, CA
Default

Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
I got a gauge man. Head over to Anaheim tonight and I can check out your pump for you. You can check out my trap door too.
would it be ok if i came over in the afternoon?
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:49 AM
  #8  
ss.slp.ls1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,184
Likes: 28
From: Orange County, CA
Default

Originally Posted by hitmanws6
would it be ok if i came over in the afternoon?
I won't be around til the evening. I work 9-6 M-F.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:50 AM
  #9  
derekderek's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 404
Likes: 0
From: Dothan AL for now
Default

Originally Posted by hitmanws6
that does help it, i prime it twice and it starts right up


Yea then its your check valve you will be able to verify this once a gauge is on it. You can see how fast pressure is bleeding off mine was almost instant. Sounds like its time for a new pump or you can just live with it like that until it goes out.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 02:22 PM
  #10  
the_merv's Avatar
11 Second Club
Veteran: Air Force
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (88)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 21,019
Likes: 893
From: The Beach...
Default

I guess it depends on how you start it.. my car I turn the key to run for a few seconds and let everything prime up and stuff, then try to start it.
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 03:58 PM
  #11  
hitmanws6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,041
Likes: 5
From: Orange, CA
Default

i changed the filter and opened it up, i was shocked how dirty it was for 4K miles. im sure its the pump now, i can barely hear it prime
Reply
Old Aug 25, 2009 | 04:51 PM
  #12  
the_merv's Avatar
11 Second Club
Veteran: Air Force
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (88)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 21,019
Likes: 893
From: The Beach...
Default

There ya go.. do the Access Panel.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 01:33 PM
  #13  
hitmanws6's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,041
Likes: 5
From: Orange, CA
Default

ok since the filter is out ive narrowed it down to the relay or the pump. i primed the pump 3 times, car started right up. the whine is very faint now. pulled off the vaccum line on the regulator at idle, no smell of gas or trace of gas, so thats out. 2 of the 5 prongs in the regulator are bronze, rather than silver like the other ones, not sure what to make of that. going to replace that tomorrow, see what happens
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 01:48 PM
  #14  
ss.slp.ls1's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 8,184
Likes: 28
From: Orange County, CA
Default

Originally Posted by hitmanws6
ok since the filter is out ive narrowed it down to the relay or the pump. i primed the pump 3 times, car started right up. the whine is very faint now. pulled off the vaccum line on the regulator at idle, no smell of gas or trace of gas, so thats out. 2 of the 5 prongs in the regulator are bronze, rather than silver like the other ones, not sure what to make of that. going to replace that tomorrow, see what happens
Did you get a fuel pressure gauge yet?
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 03:07 PM
  #15  
RamAir95TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 9,467
Likes: 8
From: South Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by hitmanws6
ok since the filter is out ive narrowed it down to the relay or the pump. i primed the pump 3 times, car started right up. the whine is very faint now. pulled off the vaccum line on the regulator at idle, no smell of gas or trace of gas, so thats out. 2 of the 5 prongs in the regulator are bronze, rather than silver like the other ones, not sure what to make of that. going to replace that tomorrow, see what happens
If the relay was bad, you wouldn't hear the pump turn on at all. Not to mention a failure of the pump itself is much more commonplace than a failure of the relay (due to it's simplicity, it's pretty robust).

Do what everyone else has told you and put a damn fuel pressure gauge on it! No LT1 owner should be without one.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 03:31 PM
  #16  
the_merv's Avatar
11 Second Club
Veteran: Air Force
20 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (88)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 21,019
Likes: 893
From: The Beach...
Default

^^Samething I was going to say.. if the Relay was out it wouldn't be doing anything.

Sounds like the Regulator may be losing Vacumm pressure..
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2009 | 06:21 PM
  #17  
derekderek's Avatar
12 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 404
Likes: 0
From: Dothan AL for now
Default

Originally Posted by hitmanws6
ok since the filter is out ive narrowed it down to the relay or the pump. i primed the pump 3 times, car started right up. the whine is very faint now. pulled off the vaccum line on the regulator at idle, no smell of gas or trace of gas, so thats out. 2 of the 5 prongs in the regulator are bronze, rather than silver like the other ones, not sure what to make of that. going to replace that tomorrow, see what happens
I would say unless you have a spare regulator laying around I wouldnt waste my money replacing it. I would replace the pump way before I would replace the FPR. Its been awhile since I read everything but its the stock pump right?
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:30 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE