LT4 conversion vs. Lloyd Elliot
the post i quoted made it seem as though just slapping a cam on an otherwise stock LT1 was going to make 80 more rwhp
plus, the word "stock" is very subjective, especially on the internet. when i mean stock heads, i mean as cast from the factory. some people claim stock heads, but really mean ported factory castings
please re-read my post:
again, no bone stock LT1 will gain 80rwhp from just a cam swap alone. no boltons, or head work added. just a cam
plus, the word "stock" is very subjective, especially on the internet. when i mean stock heads, i mean as cast from the factory. some people claim stock heads, but really mean ported factory castings
again, no bone stock LT1 will gain 80rwhp from just a cam swap alone. no boltons, or head work added. just a cam
plus, the word "stock" is very subjective, especially on the internet. when i mean stock heads, i mean as cast from the factory. some people claim stock heads, but really mean ported factory castings
I am talking about about bone stock untouched heads w/ cam and bolton's, such as headers/exhaust/cai puttin down 330whp+ all day. And le2(ported stock heads)/ cam cars on stock shortblocks puttin down 400whp+.
You guys are arguing over definitions, and both are right.
He is correct in that an LT1 is not going to put 330 to the wheels cam only(in the exact sense) with the hotcam. He is considering cam only as no headers, tune, cai, etc(however silly that may be to do).
With the hotcam and all the supporting bolt-ons though, leaving the heads untouched, it can be done. That is what is usually considered "cam only", but its really "cam plus bolt-ons", or "supporting mods" if you want to call them that.
Both builds are "cam only" depending on who you ask. I don't see what the argument is over
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He is correct in that an LT1 is not going to put 330 to the wheels cam only(in the exact sense) with the hotcam. He is considering cam only as no headers, tune, cai, etc(however silly that may be to do).
With the hotcam and all the supporting bolt-ons though, leaving the heads untouched, it can be done. That is what is usually considered "cam only", but its really "cam plus bolt-ons", or "supporting mods" if you want to call them that.
Both builds are "cam only" depending on who you ask. I don't see what the argument is over
. please re-read my post:
again, no bone stock LT1 will gain 80rwhp from just a cam swap alone. no boltons, or head work added. just a cam
plus, the word "stock" is very subjective, especially on the internet. when i mean stock heads, i mean as cast from the factory. some people claim stock heads, but really mean ported factory castings
again, no bone stock LT1 will gain 80rwhp from just a cam swap alone. no boltons, or head work added. just a cam
plus, the word "stock" is very subjective, especially on the internet. when i mean stock heads, i mean as cast from the factory. some people claim stock heads, but really mean ported factory castings
I am talking about about bone stock untouched heads w/ cam and bolton's, such as headers/exhaust/cai puttin down 330whp+ all day. And le2(ported stock heads)/ cam cars on stock shortblocks puttin down 400whp+.
I don't see what the argument is over
this is why ive been beating the whole "cam + boltons" debate to death. i should have just made it simple and said:
LT1 + hotcam + boltons = 340rwhp
LT4 + hotcam = 340rwhp
sorry if its been so drawn out
sorry not trying to argue. Like puck said there are to ways to look at cam only! I know this is not the hot cam, but check this out from back in the day.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...o-results.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...o-results.html
Here's my results 
I have a HOT cam and stock heads. My WS6 ran 12.4@111. I have SLP shorties into the stock y-pipe and cats. Passed MD emissions easily back in the day, actually blew better than when it was stock!
My Dad ran 12.2@113 in his Comp TA with the HOT cam and LT4 heads/intake. His dynoed at 375 about 10 years ago. His was SLP mids and no cat.
Both cars had 4.10 gears and the runs were done at MIR a long time ago.
I have a HOT cam and stock heads. My WS6 ran 12.4@111. I have SLP shorties into the stock y-pipe and cats. Passed MD emissions easily back in the day, actually blew better than when it was stock!
My Dad ran 12.2@113 in his Comp TA with the HOT cam and LT4 heads/intake. His dynoed at 375 about 10 years ago. His was SLP mids and no cat.
Both cars had 4.10 gears and the runs were done at MIR a long time ago.
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Bolt ons 345 whp?? im making 345whp with bolt on, heads, stock cam and stock rokers. so yes, it can be done.my motor, car stock, made 268 whp at jegs dyno in Columbus ohio before I started. and have dyno sheets. email me for build. like I said, running low 12s with stock cam rollers, no power adders.
im making 345whp with bolt on, heads, stock cam and stock rokers. so yes, it can be done.my motor, car stock, made 268 whp at jegs dyno in Columbus ohio before I started. and have dyno sheets. email me for build. like I said, running low 12s with stock cam rollers, no power adders.
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Madtuner tune
160° stat
SLP lid
1.6RR,7/16 studs
Airfoil (big power adder
)Pacesetter Longtubes
2.5" X-pipe 1 chamber flows
4.10s
At 3004' DA on 315 dragradials 12.98 106 on 150 shot NX shark nozzle 11.39 and 11.33 best
