Tourque arms?
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mods are lt4 hotcam kit with lt4 heads,52mmtb,hooker longtubes,borla adjustable ex,aluminum driveshaft,3400 edges stall,built 4l60e,on mt drag radials.already have qa1 drag adjustables in the front,hotchkis rear addjustable shocks,panhan bar,everything but rear drag springs but need some. anyone have any?i have some trouble hooking i think because the front is setting so low.i like going to the track 6 or so times a year but just enjoy driving it.
If you're having trouble hooking with a mid 300's rwhp auto car on MTs, either the tires are shot, have way too much air, or you suspension is set up wrong/broken.
I was cutting 1.61's with just rear LCAs and MT dr's, flashing the convertor, no footbraking
I was cutting 1.61's with just rear LCAs and MT dr's, flashing the convertor, no footbraking
The problem is even though stock susp. components may be able to hook up well with average tq output the stock torque arm is still a stamped piece of thin steal that flexes with each launch, fatiguing and sometimes leading to failure. Of course the above is not guaranteed to happen, but I do know of those who took their cars to the track whenever they could and suffered torque arm breakage. If the car is taken to the track then it is always a good idea to reinforce weak points that distribute torque to the wheels.
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There's a HUGE difference between "hooking" off the line and leaving the line properly/efficiently.
A torque arm will help a lot in dialing in your suspension. I'd suggest one. Was one of my first mods.
edit: and a torque arm doesn't add 150 hp... dont listen to merv... it adds 150 lbs of torque.... that's why it's called a TORQUE arm and not a horsepower arm
if you can't hook half decent in a mid 300's horsepower auto fbody with MT's and some suspension work then something is broken, the tires are shot, or something is adjusted completely wrong. throwing new suspension components at it unless you're replacing a problematic/broken one is not the answer in that scenario IMO
I will say when my 96 z28 m6 was catback/cai only, it would turn consistent 13.7's on the street with a gtech. Soon as I installed a jegs tunnel mt. tq arm, I dropped to 13.4. Flame away on the gtech if you want, but they are accurate! I have personally tested it against the local track and they are within .05, but you have get it level, wich was easy on the first models. I had my regal on the gtech a week ago, it turned 13.75, went to the track 2 days later, it went 13.81. My ls1 is hitting 12.5-12.7's on it, but I won't post times until it's backed up at the track. Point is; an aftermarket tq arm is a necessity on
m6 cars, a4's are different. So make sure your comparing apples to apples here!
m6 cars, a4's are different. So make sure your comparing apples to apples here!
dude I'm not saying a torque arm doesn't help (I own an adjustable one as well)
I WAS SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PROBLEMS CUTTING A HALF DECENT 60' IN A STALLED AUTO CAR WITH A DECENT TIRE EVEN ON A STOCK TQ ARM. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS DOING SUCH THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE CAR, LIKE A FAILED SUSPENSION COMPONENT, CRAP TIRES, ETC.
I WAS SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PROBLEMS CUTTING A HALF DECENT 60' IN A STALLED AUTO CAR WITH A DECENT TIRE EVEN ON A STOCK TQ ARM. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS DOING SUCH THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE CAR, LIKE A FAILED SUSPENSION COMPONENT, CRAP TIRES, ETC.
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Now I am confused haha, the TQ arm obviously does not add power, but I would think getting better suspension components would increase traction regardless of the tire(assuming you are using the same junk tire, before and after).
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I really need one of these... I got some MT E/T DRs a couple of weeks ago, and thought that my 60' would improve. I am running the same 60' times that I ran on my street tires (1.93-1.96) - would a TA help me that much? I have LCAs, relocation brackets, SFC, PHB, STB... so I have a pretty solid suspension. Other than that, I have a CAI, GMMG catback, 2800 stall. I managed a 13.59 ET. Would it make that much of a difference right now?