Ai 200cc CNC H/C Dyno, A4, 425rwhp
10-21-2009, 10:46 AM
#42
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The converter is locked, so it isn't going to be far off of an M6 #. Again, because we offer the most consistent ported cylinder head available, as well as the most consistent cams (100% in house QC), the guys making 420-430 on stock short block cars are the best example of the potential of the parts. Many of the guys posting results online have some sort of issue that needs to be worked out, regardless of what parts they run. The guys who run the #'s get the car "right." As far as your car goes, it looks like you have done a good job on the setup, running into the 11's at 114. Our average stock short block cars trap 117-119 w/ the faster cars running low 120's and the fastest at 131 NA.
The converter is locked, so it isn't going to be far off of an M6 #. Again, because we offer the most consistent ported cylinder head available, as well as the most consistent cams (100% in house QC), the guys making 420-430 on stock short block cars are the best example of the potential of the parts. Many of the guys posting results online have some sort of issue that needs to be worked out, regardless of what parts they run. The guys who run the #'s get the car "right." As far as your car goes, it looks like you have done a good job on the setup, running into the 11's at 114. Our average stock short block cars trap 117-119 w/ the faster cars running low 120's and the fastest at 131 NA.
10-21-2009, 11:43 AM
#44
Impressive numbers
To those questioning the range or peak numbers,
keep in mind that a "22x cam" doesn't have to be 220/226 -114 ... it could very well be (and is very likely closer to) 228/236 -110
425 though a locked stall is very doable on pump gas with a cam that size, ported heads (AI or otherwise), a properly-assembled motor and a good tune.
To those questioning the range or peak numbers,
keep in mind that a "22x cam" doesn't have to be 220/226 -114 ... it could very well be (and is very likely closer to) 228/236 -110
425 though a locked stall is very doable on pump gas with a cam that size, ported heads (AI or otherwise), a properly-assembled motor and a good tune.
Last edited by James Montigny; 10-21-2009 at 12:34 PM.
10-21-2009, 01:09 PM
#48
AI,
It would have been helpful to simply have stated in the OP, that the converter was locked when the numbers were produced rather than leaving it to the imagination. That said, I would have not have raised the issues that I did if that were stated.
I have been around long enough to know to know that A4's dyno like **** next to a comparable M6 and it is my understanding that many guys dyno with the converter unlocked if they are simply doing pulls. Obviously if you are tuning and the computer is hooked up to the car, you can force it to lock up and get the nicer numbers. Thats what I would have done if I had an A4. IMHO, stating the condition of the converter during the measurement is just as important as stating if power correction is taking place in order to avoid these issues.
I made the statement that there must be a "wildcard" in this situation and the converter locked was the wildcard. I seriously doubt that anybody would resist calling BS if it were determined that the converter was NOT locked based on the information provided.
Again. Very nice numbers and hats off to the owner, builder and AI. I am grateful that this was discussed in a more mature manner than what has been discussed in the past.
It would have been helpful to simply have stated in the OP, that the converter was locked when the numbers were produced rather than leaving it to the imagination. That said, I would have not have raised the issues that I did if that were stated.
I have been around long enough to know to know that A4's dyno like **** next to a comparable M6 and it is my understanding that many guys dyno with the converter unlocked if they are simply doing pulls. Obviously if you are tuning and the computer is hooked up to the car, you can force it to lock up and get the nicer numbers. Thats what I would have done if I had an A4. IMHO, stating the condition of the converter during the measurement is just as important as stating if power correction is taking place in order to avoid these issues.
I made the statement that there must be a "wildcard" in this situation and the converter locked was the wildcard. I seriously doubt that anybody would resist calling BS if it were determined that the converter was NOT locked based on the information provided.
Again. Very nice numbers and hats off to the owner, builder and AI. I am grateful that this was discussed in a more mature manner than what has been discussed in the past.
10-21-2009, 02:15 PM
#52
pretty good considering ramair95ta only trapped 1~mph more with the same cylinder heads on a high compression 383 in an fbody.
that imp is definately very well setup to run that number besides the great top end on that motor
Last edited by myltwon; 10-21-2009 at 03:26 PM.
10-21-2009, 02:17 PM
#53
IIRC that was a shakedown pass for Joe, and it has yet to be dialed in. I think has WAY more in it. Not speaking for him, just saying.
You can bet that this car is dialed in to the nth degree, and the results show it. Great running car! We need video
You can bet that this car is dialed in to the nth degree, and the results show it. Great running car! We need video
10-21-2009, 04:01 PM
#56
like I said I know those are dialed in passes I'm just saying look at what has BEEN accomplished through a quality dialed in setup, just to show how much potential joe's has with the kind of attention to detail the impala has. joe's car is a 200cc AI hr package just with the impala correct?
10-21-2009, 05:13 PM
#57
17" 9.5" C6 rims
285-40-17 wide *** tires
2 10 subs in very small cabinet
2 amplifiers
TD exhaust with LT's
Spare and jack
My big *** weighing in at 245#
I have done no weight reduction and dont really plan to. Its just a fun car, not really a race car.
10-21-2009, 05:30 PM
#58
IMO this car seems to be set up to take records, and is fully set up for the track. Also with a locked converter and 10bolt, those numbers dont seem out of reach to me. The weight of the car, makes no difference on the dyno.
10-21-2009, 05:41 PM
#59
Huh??? I thought the hole point of this thread was what a properly tuned and well put together set up is capable of? I also read this is the 2nd time at the track with the set up. Not really a shake down.
IMO this car seems to be set up to take records, and is fully set up for the track. Also with a locked converter and 10bolt, those numbers dont seem out of reach to me. The weight of the car, makes no difference on the dyno.
IMO this car seems to be set up to take records, and is fully set up for the track. Also with a locked converter and 10bolt, those numbers dont seem out of reach to me. The weight of the car, makes no difference on the dyno.