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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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So, I called this local shop in Tacoma called Delta Cam and they are regrinding my cam to the specs of a cc503 for $50. I'm just realy excited to save $200. Plus he said I may not even need to buy different pushrods. Just an idea for you guys in case you are trying to save money. I also bought valve springs that are good up to .600" lift from Bullet racing for $130 and they can be used with the stock retainers and everything. So, it's possible to do a cam swap for a lot cheaper than you might think!
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Damn, thats a good deal! So with the springs, you don't have to do any machine work to getum to fit on the heads?
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Big D Mcgee
Damn, thats a good deal! So with the springs, you don't have to do any machine work to getum to fit on the heads?
No, those Bullet springs are just a single drop in spring that reuses all the stock stuff.

As for the cam I'm not too familiar on regrinds so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but when the regrind I thought they changed the base circle size requiring different push rods.

And just because the duration is the same as the cc503 doesn't mean its going to be on the same lobes either.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanisfast
So, I called this local shop in Tacoma called Delta Cam and they are regrinding my cam to the specs of a cc503 for $50. I'm just realy excited to save $200. Plus he said I may not even need to buy different pushrods. Just an idea for you guys in case you are trying to save money. I also bought valve springs that are good up to .600" lift from Bullet racing for $130 and they can be used with the stock retainers and everything. So, it's possible to do a cam swap for a lot cheaper than you might think!
well stock lenght pushrods will do fine u dont need to replace them anyway in your set up if using stock heads. yes the bullet springs are a single drop in spring which would be fine. go with 1.6's since the springs are good to that lift.

it sounds cheap never heard of that company before and like the other guy said even if the cam is spec'd out the same doesnt neccessarily means its going to be the same performer like the cc503.. the lobes are not the same. but if everything goes well yes its a killer deal eitherway. goodluck and if or when u do get everything installed let us know how it turned out.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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What size was the original cam you had.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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are the springs reputable?
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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also, where can i get the springs? whats the webaddress?
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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Hey guys. I was assured that the performance of a regrind is the same as the actual cc503. And the valve springs I found out about from http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31236

I already have 1.6rr's on order, so I'm good. He said that depending on how much they have to grind on the base circle will determine if I will need longer pushrods, but it has nothing to do with lift, it only has to do with the geometry of the valvetrain.

These cam place is only 3 miles from my house, so that's why it's $55. I don't know how much they charge for sending them yours in the mail, but I'll list the site for the valve springs and the cam place.

http://deltacam.com/camshaftgrinding.php

http://www.bulletcams.com/pl.html

Part # on the springs is VS2700. Read up on the article from ls1lt1.com Loyde Elliot recommends them.
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Old Nov 21, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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What cam did you start with?
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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I just had Delta do a regrind for me using my stock lt1 cam to a Hot Cam setup. Vary reasonable price and good quality. I dont have my engine all the way together but its purdy
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Are those 1.6 rockers SA or NSA? If NSA you'll have to do hardened pushrods
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by disc0monkey
regrinds are ok but only have experience using ls6 valvesprings. i would be careful approaching .600 lift tho. be ready to order pushrods and do not fire it up without getting a pushrod checker! you might get away with .020 lifter preload which would be ok.
? this isn't the ls1 section man. Wouldn't be very hard to copy the XE lobes on the CC503, just look em up on comp's website.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Be carefull they do not grind away the heat treating.How cheap would it be then?
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gjohnsonws6
Be carefull they do not grind away the heat treating.How cheap would it be then?
That's the reason I never considered a reground cam, no matter what the price. Motor pulls and dissassembly/re-assembly are no small matter, so the cost of the cam is not a driver for me.
Does anybody have info that shows my concern is unfounded?
I just know that surface hardening treatments on steel typically extend only .030" to .040" into the surface, so naturally most of that won't remain after a regrind. It would have to be a high quality billet core for me to be comfortable with the durability necessary to put street miles on it.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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I was told they would probably take off about .006" off of my stock cam. Either way, 130 for springs, $50 for the cam, and 160 for the SA 1.6rr's, saves me a lot of money. I was thinking I would need close to $800 for all of the valvetrain setup. But now I'm only spending about $340.

In a way though, I'm glad to spend less because I bought this new motor for only $700 and I was told it only had 30k on it and that it ran good, but I have no proof until I start it up! So, that's why I don't want to spend a whole lot on it.

I honestly think this information is very valuable. I did a lot of research before I decided to go with the parts that I chose, so I'm confident that everything will work well. Plus, Delta told me they've reground a lot of cams to the specs of the cc503 because it's a very popular cam.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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I just wanted to edit that their estimate for $50 was for a different type of cam. It actually ended up being $90
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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? this isn't the ls1 section man. Wouldn't be very hard to copy the XE lobes on the CC503, just look em up on comp's website.
whats the difference? the seat 90 open 294 rate 370 lb/in from a ls6 spring can't be used as a reference just because its on a ls1? all im saying is that i put X spring on a X regrind and it didn't wipe the lobes out. Didn't think the valvetrain on the LT1 had that much of a difference. **** I used my experience from my 35 year old pontiac engine to help with my LS1 but we all know "true" pontiac was ahead of it's time.lol

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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanisfast
Hey guys. I was assured that the performance of a regrind is the same as the actual cc503.
Is that possible? I don't know much about cams, but it seems like they would have a hard time matching the LSA.

Of course they aren't going to tell you that though, it'd kill business if people knew they weren't turned into exact copies.

Again, I could be wrong. I'm just speaking from the little information I do know. Until now, I'd never even heard of regrinding.
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Nice job on the budget setup. A lot of people knock reground cams, but performed correctly there shouldn't be any issues.
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Old Nov 26, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
Nice job on the budget setup. A lot of people knock reground cams, but performed correctly there shouldn't be any issues.
I'm not knocking it, just trying to understand how they would spread out the lobes.
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