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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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k guys...i'm starting to get a knock and a bunch of metal shavings in the oil so its time to start building a motor or finding one that's done.

talked to the bank and they said 5 grand is what i can work with. its going to be a weekend street car...might end up at the strip once or twice in its life but by no means a regular. more of a show car which is why i was planning a 396 just because it sounds cooler, but now plans have changed since it decided it didn't want to give me time to save for it.

what do you guys think? no spray will ever be thrown at it either and no boost. don't really know a horsepower goal but i suppose 400+ to the wheels would be nice. i'm all ears!
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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Talk to ACHotrod, you should be able to duplicate his setup relatively cheaply.....maybe not the extent of the heads and cam, but the bottom end should be pretty cheap to duplicate......
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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my motor was about 7k
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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My short block was $700 and a bare block, but I got a killer deal from someone that needed the cash, and wanted a bigger motor. You still should be able to build one for under 5k with heads and cam.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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you should be able to build a compleate short block for around 1k... IF you build it yourself. then figure out what heads/cam setup you want and go from there...
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
My short block was $700 and a bare block, but I got a killer deal from someone that needed the cash, and wanted a bigger motor. You still should be able to build one for under 5k with heads and cam.
Wait, $700 is a good deal?
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:20 AM
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396 cause it sounds cooler eh? Interesting...
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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396 sounds old school...i like old school.

what do you mean a grand for a shortblock if i build it myself? i know nothing about putting a bottom end together as far as tolerances and clearances.

right now i'm leaning towards either of these

A. 355 with forged rods and pistons, just a 2 bolt main and LE heads and cam

B. buying a complete motor. i will post a link to one i found and see what you guys think
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...456662554.html
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 08:25 AM
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if u dont plan on racing it and its going to be a weekend cruiser or show car i wouldnt waste my money on a 383 or 396 lt1 motor. i would build a nice stout 355 heads and a cam which u will have no problem getting at over 400 rwhp out of it. just get ur heads and cam spec'd out by a good company. i see from ur post u were heading towards a lloyd elliot set up. and after all that get it tuned or dyno tuned for max results.

but yes if ur not drag racing i dont find a point in going after the big cubed lt1... just my opinion i guess.
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 22lambo
Wait, $700 is a good deal?
Ya for a brand new never fired motor, why you dont think its a good deal?
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
Ya for a brand new never fired motor, why you dont think its a good deal?
Oh I see. No, I was just wondering because I never new what is a good deal for block like that. Thanks
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
Ya for a brand new never fired motor, why you dont think its a good deal?
You STOLE that D@MN Thing!!!!!

Cheater........
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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I'd build a mean little 355, spin it to some good RPM's with a good H/C Package and call it a day..
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I'd build a mean little 355, spin it to some good RPM's with a good H/C Package and call it a day..
No, actually YOU would swap in a LQ4/L92 Stroker... :-D
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Well ya but it cost a little more than $5k..more in the $8k area..
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i was thinking a solid 355 as well.

i will probably be picking up a spare block and spare crank from somewhere. any suggestions on rods and pistons? i'd feel more comfortable with an aftermarket rod. i'd probably go with eagle 6" rods and i was thinking about srp pistons?

what are you guys typically paying for machine work and shortblock assembly?
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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I ran Eagle Rods & SRP Pistons in my LT1 that I built..used the stock Crank and had it balanced, it ran very well.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:13 AM
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My setup, less than 5k
Stock bottom end with ARP rod bolts and forged piston, balanced.
Ported stock heads LE Budget LE1's
52mm throttle body, 30 lbs injectors,
Cam of your choice, LS7 lifters, Moroso Magnum Rockers
I also used PCM4Less with the tune

That's around 4k I think and you should be 400+ hp depending on cam selection and exhaust.
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Originally Posted by duh
You STOLE that D@MN Thing!!!!!

Cheater........
Yes...yes I did!
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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If it makes a difference to anyone, the shortblock for the 408 I'm planning will be under $5K, but then again I will be doing assembly myself, so all the money is in parts and machine work........Now I just need the cash.....we can't all get lucky like mike^^^^
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