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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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hmm is your car gutted out or anything? i got mine down to around 3400 with me in it an its still a full interior, ac, heat, sterio, etc... car.
no ac/heat/power steering/sterio/passenger or back seats/ no front bumper support. i didnt do any cutting
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 01:10 AM
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no ac/heat/power steering/sterio/passenger or back seats/ no front bumper support. i didnt do any cutting
oh ok so your pretty light then... bet your somewhere around 3150lbs with you out the car..
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 03:58 AM
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Porting with no headwork is a bad idea. As far as a TB go with a 52 or 54 ported stock from ebay, a 58 is unnecessary on a 383
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
Porting with no headwork is a bad idea. As far as a TB go with a 52 or 54 ported stock from ebay, a 58 is unnecessary on a 383
i dont know about that, you want the most air you can get in that thing. hell when i went from a 58mm to a monoblade on my le2 package car i could notice a pretty good pick up.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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I tried fooling around my intake on my own and made some gains. Then I sent a intake to Lingenfelter and let them have a go at it to see if they knew something I did not. Well they do, when I put their intake on and ran the car it picked up 3mph and .2 in the 1/4 and the air density was about 500 feet worse. This is on a low 10 high 9 sec car with a 398ci in it. Well worth the 300 I spent to have it done.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
Porting with no headwork is a bad idea. As far as a TB go with a 52 or 54 ported stock from ebay, a 58 is unnecessary on a 383
There was a recent study done on CZ28.com about switching to a 52 to a 58mm. The 58mm, while minimal, provided around 7HP on back-to-back dyno-pulls from a 52mm TB.

I have a 58mm on mine.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
There was a recent study done on CZ28.com about switching to a 52 to a 58mm. The 58mm, while minimal, provided around 7HP on back-to-back dyno-pulls from a 52mm TB.

I have a 58mm on mine.
what kind of intake were they using though? Was it fully ported or was the throttle body openings just enlarged for the bigger throttle body?
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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i dont know about yall but going from a 52mm to 58mm tb and gaining 7hp is a good difference to me. wonder what setup that was on? wonder what i gained from switching my 58mm to a monoblade tb?
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Ok i wanna but in on this... If you don't mind. But what about ported intake on a turbo application with 62cc tfs heads off the self, 355 built bottom in. Just contemplating weather to port or not. Any real power gains?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 12:38 AM
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from the sounds of it that is where the most gains from porting your intake are is in forced induction applications. From what I gather out of this thread, porting the intake is kind of a trade off between flow and velocity for NA motors. For FI motors you already have tons of velocity so the more flow you can get out of the intake the better so if I am thinking right...port it
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Originally Posted by JB_97ws6TA
what kind of intake were they using though? Was it fully ported or was the throttle body openings just enlarged for the bigger throttle body?
The tests were done on a stock-manifold LE2 heads/cam car on a stock bottom end. I just double-checked the thread, and the real results were 7whp and 6tq. The results indicate that, approaching 400whp, the 58mm starts to become advantageous.

With a 383+ because of the added cylinder volume, it seems to make even more sense to use one.

Here is the thread in case anyone is interested:

http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=739747
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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isn't the stock manifold only bored to 52mm on the throttle body openings though? You would think that it would create some tubulence right there but if they got gains from that I would have no qualms putting a 58mm on now and porting the intake sometime down the road or at least opening up the throttle body bore
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JB_97ws6TA
isn't the stock manifold only bored to 52mm on the throttle body openings though? You would think that it would create some tubulence right there but if they got gains from that I would have no qualms putting a 58mm on now and porting the intake sometime down the road or at least opening up the throttle body bore
It goes without saying the manifold needs to be opened up to accept the 58mm...that's just common sense.

Maybe the "porting" you're thinking about doesn't include the runners.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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Here are a few pics of my manifold, opened up for a 58mm+ with fully ported intake runners as well.



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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:46 AM
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no I know the difference between intake porting and throttle bore opening but I had to ask the question because they failed to mention it. I will probably end up talking to a local machine shop about opening the throttle bores then and go with a 58 as opposed to sending it out to have it fully ported or settling for a 52mm. Thanks for all the help to all that have contributed, as always it is appreciated
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Here are a few pics of my manifold, opened up for a 58mm+ with fully ported intake runners as well.





damn that looks nice, have a question though. when i swapped my 58mm out for the monoblade i opened up the front of my mani myself for the monoblade tb. well when i did that i smoothed out the whole opening, meaning that lil hump on the bottom with the hole in the middle of it i cut it out. would this cause any problems?
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Originally Posted by c5formula
damn that looks nice, have a question though. when i swapped my 58mm out for the monoblade i opened up the front of my mani myself for the monoblade tb. well when i did that i smoothed out the whole opening, meaning that lil hump on the bottom with the hole in the middle of it i cut it out. would this cause any problems?
The front hole is for the IAC. How is your idle?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 02:52 AM
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it seems to idle fine, though taking off is quite a pain at times.
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