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Old Apr 1, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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OK....so I have been chasing a high rpm stumble for the past month or so...

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and nothing has fixed it...

Today I go out and turn the key and the fuel pump primes and as SOON as it quits my Autometer fuel pressure gauge falls to 10psi almost instantly...

I know the regulator is good as I just replaced it a week ago because I was getting fuel through the vac line....


So I am guessing the fuel pump is bad now???

The car is almost on Empty for fuel would that have anything to do with it? You think this could have anything to do with my high rpm stumble??
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 12:48 AM
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Is it stock? never been changed? May be time for a 255
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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Put a fuel gauge on it,fuel pressure with the key on should be a steady 43lbs
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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I can set you up with a Racetronix kit if you are interested.

With your nitrous, you should really make sure you have enough fuel supply.
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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I don't know if its a stock pump the guy before me may have changed it...

I have a Autometer gauge on it and it reads 40 at idle and 45 at wot...however when I turn the key and don't start the car it drops back down very fast....


I sent you a PM about the racetronix....

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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MattSapp95_T/A
I don't know if its a stock pump the guy before me may have changed it...

I have a Autometer gauge on it and it reads 40 at idle and 45 at wot...however when I turn the key and don't start the car it drops back down very fast....


I sent you a PM about the racetronix....

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Pressure leaking down at idle that fast can only be caused by one of four things:

-Leaking fuel pump check ball.
-Leaking fuel pump flex pipe.
-Leaking valve/seat within fuel pressure regulator.
-Leaking injectors.

The injectors are easy enough to test - just remove the four bolts holding the regulator down, lift off the fuel rail, pressurize the fuel system, and see if any of them leak.

The regulator can be tested by either a.) removing the vacuum line and smelling/feeling for fuel or b.) applying vacuum to the regulator and seeing if fuel pressure changes.

If one of those two isn't the case, then you've got an issue in the tank.
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Old Apr 2, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Pressure leaking down at idle that fast can only be caused by one of four things:

-Leaking fuel pump check ball.
-Leaking fuel pump flex pipe.
-Leaking valve/seat within fuel pressure regulator.
-Leaking injectors.

The injectors are easy enough to test - just remove the four bolts holding the regulator down, lift off the fuel rail, pressurize the fuel system, and see if any of them leak.

The regulator can be tested by either a.) removing the vacuum line and smelling/feeling for fuel or b.) applying vacuum to the regulator and seeing if fuel pressure changes.

If one of those two isn't the case, then you've got an issue in the tank.
the pressure is not leaking down at idle it only leaks down if I turn the key to the "on" position and Do Not start the car...the pump will prime and once it primes the pressure drops....if I actually start the car the fuel pressure jumps to 40 like it should and stays there and goes to 45 when I am at wot.....
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Didn't mean to type "leak down at idle," I meant after shut down. My bad.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Didn't mean to type "leak down at idle," I meant after shut down. My bad.
Thanks for the advice RamAir

If I pull the rail up and pressurize the system it won't push the injectors out of the rail?

is it pretty rare to have a leaky injector??

I know the pump is pretty old so I am thinking that may be the prob but of course I will check everything before I throw money at it...

The regulator and I have rechecked it so its either the pump or injector....Car has been a bit hard to start lately too....

with the car running the pressure is great...so if it just leaks down after shutoff then what kind of problems can it cause???


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No, the injectors won't go anywhere (they're held in with clips, and the friction of the o-rings will keep them seated).

Leaky injectors are not unheard of, and it's easy enough to check.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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injectors looked good...just got done doing it...

So it has to be something in the pump....Gonna order a new one this week..


Now my questions is if it has good pressure during idle and WOT what will it hurt to drive until the new pump comes in?

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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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Nothing's going to get "hurt" it just might cut out on you altogether or refuse to start. I freaking hate fuel pumps. You gonna drop the tank or do the trap-door thing?
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 12:18 AM
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ok cool......I am gonna do the trap door thing....I HATE dropping the tank...

My car hates me...lol as soon as I fix this something else will go....
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