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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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cc306 is a fine cam, just don't use it with stock unported heads.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nomoneyz
i would say 410s. I went with them for my auto and its awsome.
hows it on the street? what r ur rpms going through the traps in 3rd? im thinking of doing 4.10's in my bolt on car also
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
cc306 is a fine cam, just don't use it with stock unported heads.
Why not? Whats a good choice for stock heads? cc503?
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CamaroRacing12
hows it on the street? what r ur rpms going through the traps in 3rd? im thinking of doing 4.10's in my bolt on car also
Make your own thread beoch! lol
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 93TAJ.C.
Why not? Whats a good choice for stock heads? cc503?
It's arguably too large for stock heads, it hinders the cam's full potential. Otherwise it's great. For stock heads sure, cc503 has been known to be very popular.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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so you would do a cc503 before a cc306? i guess i would'ent mind shifting a bit lower lol. witch would make more power?
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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Probably a 503 on untouched heads..
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
cc306 is a fine cam, just don't use it with stock unported heads.
You live in FL.

The op lives at 5,000+ feet. The cc306 is a terrible cam for this altitude even with stock ported heads...

You ever heard of something called DCR? Have you ever ran this cam?

I have seen a lot of cam only and head / cam cars with the 306 and even at sea level they usually have mediocre results, unless you're looking for a dyno number.

A lot of people get caught up in peak numbers. Just like the op stated there are lots of cc306 cars that make 345-360 hp. Well guess what, that dont mean **** in a race, especially on the street. I loooovvveee seeing those "360 hp cam only 306" cars get WALKED by a better thought out combo that makes maybe 330-345 rwhp but the damn dyno sheet doesn't look like mt everest.

If you have any doubt go look at the cc306 dyno sheet a few threads down, the turd was making 150hp when the run started and didn't achieve peak power until 5500.

You use that cam at this altitude and it will run like ****, period.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
You live in FL.

The op lives at 5,000+ feet. The cc306 is a terrible cam for this altitude even with stock ported heads...

You ever heard of something called DCR? Have you ever ran this cam?

I have seen a lot of cam only and head / cam cars with the 306 and even at sea level they usually have mediocre results, unless you're looking for a dyno number.

A lot of people get caught up in peak numbers. Just like the op stated there are lots of cc306 cars that make 345-360 hp. Well guess what, that dont mean **** in a race, especially on the street. I loooovvveee seeing those "360 hp cam only 306" cars get WALKED by a better thought out combo that makes maybe 330-345 rwhp but the damn dyno sheet doesn't look like mt everest.

If you have any doubt go look at the cc306 dyno sheet a few threads down, the turd was making 150hp when the run started and didn't achieve peak power until 5500.

You use that cam at this altitude and it will run like ****, period.
Yes, I know what DCR is bud. I don't know where you live nor did I bother finding out. Obviously you were referring to it at your altitude and I was referring it to mine. No argument is valid here from neither of our sides.
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
No argument is valid here from neither of our sides.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
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You're saying it's shitty bc you live in a shitty area and I'm saying it's pretty good bc I'm at sea level... We both hold valid points so get over it.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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how do people like you (gregrob) seem to always find my threads? You know your ****, thats cool, quit being a dick and just give your advise. I know that if the cc306 is not the best cam for a stock headed car its not going to be good at all at this elevation. That said what would you do in my situation? I don't have the money for headwork, i just want to use the best cam for stock heads.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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If you know it's not the best cam for a stock headed car, why would you use it?

It doesn't really matter what I say. You need to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. If you really want my thoughts PM me and I'll give them to you.

Or instead of doing any real research you could just run mis-matched off the shelf parts and you'll get mediocre to poor results.

******** out
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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look at the cam sticky above, all the info you need is there. If I were you I would get 4.10's. You would rev higher in the first couple of gears but once you shift into 5th-6th/OD you'll be ok
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:38 PM
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Do your research and ask around, find out what cam works best for your app in your area. There are a ton of options out there and As far as the gears go...I know you said 3.73's. I think either 3.90's or 4.10's would work great.
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I don't want to run mis matched parts, thats why I'm asking questions and collecting feedback, I don't have time to do a ton if any research at all lately and just wanted an honest opinion. I don't think its going to take a ton of research to find a good cam for a bolt on stock headed lt1 and i hate computers. I'm not good with words, and don't want to defend myself on the internet internet. I just want to make my car faster, thats all.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NewOrleansLT1
look at the cam sticky above, all the info you need is there. If I were you I would get 4.10's. You would rev higher in the first couple of gears but once you shift into 5th-6th/OD you'll be ok
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 93TAJ.C.
I don't want to run mis matched parts, thats why I'm asking questions and collecting feedback, I don't have time to do a ton if any research at all lately and just wanted an honest opinion. I don't think its going to take a ton of research to find a good cam for a bolt on stock headed lt1 and i hate computers. I'm not good with words, and don't want to defend myself on the internet internet. I just want to make my car faster, thats all.
Your box is full, Clear some of your PM's and I will send you some info.
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Old Apr 21, 2010 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by NewOrleansLT1

Agreed
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dcr is overrated imo, it doesnt take overlap into account and cylinder "charging." run a nice tight lobe center and you dont have to kill duration to make nice midrange power (cylinder pressure!)
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