LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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I have 3.23's in my 1993 TA m6 trans am with almost full bolt ons. I just got next to a 2009 srt8 charger and he beat me three times in a row by maby a door. Soooo damn close! We went from a dig twice and from a roll once. we stopped and talked and he was really impressed with what i told him was done. His was bone stock and under warranty, but it had the 6.1 425hp hemi. I was bummed so i came home a did some research, turns out they do 0-60 in 4.9 and 1/4 in 13 flat. I'm not so disappointed now lol. I think i'm just gunna do 3.73's and a cc306 this summer, then i should whoop his *** lol. the damn guy lives right by me!
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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I might advise 4.10s with an M6 which is what most M6 guys don't. Might not be that big of a difference going to 3.73s as you think.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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he's a 93... 3.73s are the same as a 94-02 doing 4.10s
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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yup '93 m6=3.23 gears...

3.73's or 4.10's would both be good choices
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 02:58 PM
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i would say 410s. I went with them for my auto and its awsome.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 03:04 PM
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or 3.90's?
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nomoneyz
i would say 410s. I went with them for my auto and its awsome.
93 manual has different gearing then the 94+, it is more aggressive.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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Go ahead and do the cc 306. You'll lose much better next time.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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you don't want 4.10 with a 93 M6, not only for the fact that the 93 M6 has different gearing for 1st and 3rd but couple that with the fact that a 4.10 is more likely to break and you got your answer.

I run a 3.89 with a 93 M6 and love it.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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custom grind and 4.10s.... i ran 4.30s in my 96 so i think that his 93 will be ok with 4.10s
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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oh yea well i ran 4.71s so beat that! naw that cc306 needs some gear because it makes no midrange. i vote custom grind as well, more gear is better than less gear IMO
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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custom grind and 4.10s.... i ran 4.30s in my 96 so i think that his 93 will be ok with 4.10s
and yet you only managed a 1.6 60' with 4.30s, lol
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Originally Posted by garage_queen
you don't want 4.10 with a 93 M6, not only for the fact that the 93 M6 has different gearing for 1st and 3rd but couple that with the fact that a 4.10 is more likely to break and you got your answer.

I run a 3.89 with a 93 M6 and love it.
there are plenty of 4.10 geared folks out there who have not broken...why does everyone say that 4.10's wll just break? That seems like such an ignorant statement...kind of like "nitrous will blow up your motor"...
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by garage_queen
and yet you only managed a 1.6 60' with 4.30s, lol
i also only made 5 passes with them before i left for Iraq
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
there are plenty of 4.10 geared folks out there who have not broken...why does everyone say that 4.10's wll just break? That seems like such an ignorant statement...kind of like "nitrous will blow up your motor"...
Didn't say they "would" break, but I would say that 4.10s will break before 3.73s given the same brand and series of gear. Put a 4.10 next to a 3.73 and you'll see why. There is a big difference. I'll see if I can find the pic that was recently posted.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
Go ahead and do the cc 306. You'll lose much better next time.
You hate on the 306 a lot It's a great cam for when it was designed and works awesome when properly set up. Sad thing is, a lot of people throw them on untouched stock headed cars with hotcam springs -_-
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Opinions opinions..
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Facts.
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Old Apr 20, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Ok, everybody just settle down lol. I'm doing 3.73's because it is an m29 t56 and the gearing is more aggressive as mentioned earlier. I actually live about 15 miles east of colorado springs, so a little highway is seen and I would just feel better with 2500rpm or so at 70mph. As for the mention of wanting to do a cc306, I'm not positive this is what I'm going to do, if its a bad idea Let me know why. I don't know everything and I like the advise.

That said, is the cc306 a bad cam choice? I'v heard good things about them on a stock headed car. I'v looked around and seen claims of 345-360 with full bolt on cars. I know I'm way up in CO and wont make that much, but i would like to get close. I also love the sound of high shifts and heavy lope and if i do choose a cc306 I'll get some arp rod bolts for the abuse. I'll also get a good dyno tune from an awesome local shop called RMCR, the guy who will do the tune actually has a sick 800rwhp lt1 trans am and is here on ls1tech.
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