Machine shop issues
Teching In
Joined: Mar 2010
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From: Fostoria, Ohio
Document everything, keep in contact with Bauer, or at least attempt to. Get estimates of what the cost will be to replace the intake and have it converted by a reputable shop. Keep all the receipts that you have already and when you get back to the States file suit.
Hands down you win, you may never recover the damages without having to hire an attorney to collect them for you but you'll get them. And the best thing of all that is that he'll be forced to pay for your attorney fees including interest!!!
I don't know Brett nor do I ever intend to send him any of my business after reading this thread..
Good Luck to ya brother.
Thank You!!
Hands down you win, you may never recover the damages without having to hire an attorney to collect them for you but you'll get them. And the best thing of all that is that he'll be forced to pay for your attorney fees including interest!!!
I don't know Brett nor do I ever intend to send him any of my business after reading this thread..
Good Luck to ya brother.
Thank You!!
TECH Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2009
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i read this the other day..
i take it that you have already paid for this intake and to have the modifications done? this thing has been shipped several different times also..
who the hell didnt put shipping insurance on such an expensive intake? all involved are dumbass's for not insuring the piece to begin with.. I've seen shipping companies lose entire crate engines!!
i wouldnt let brett bauer work on my lawnmower now.. i been a machinist for 22yrs, looks like brett has been doing it for all of 2 days, **** poor work, **** poor tooling.. if the dumbass treats people like that he deserves to be out of business..
i take it that you have already paid for this intake and to have the modifications done? this thing has been shipped several different times also..
who the hell didnt put shipping insurance on such an expensive intake? all involved are dumbass's for not insuring the piece to begin with.. I've seen shipping companies lose entire crate engines!!
i wouldnt let brett bauer work on my lawnmower now.. i been a machinist for 22yrs, looks like brett has been doing it for all of 2 days, **** poor work, **** poor tooling.. if the dumbass treats people like that he deserves to be out of business..
Bert showing the true colors once again. Perhaps now some of the sheep who blindly follow this clown will understand what a moron he truly is. Whatever shithook you paid to get this done should be responsible for making it right.
Don't think it's too smart to be conducting this kind of business while you are half a world away either.
Don't think it's too smart to be conducting this kind of business while you are half a world away either.
Last edited by SS RRR; Apr 24, 2010 at 06:27 PM.
My experience with Brett Bauer Mr. Brett Bauer claims to grind custom camshafts for folks, including the LT1. I tried to contact him for a custom cam. First I PM'd him and it took him about a week to get back to me.
1) Lack of communication.....first warning sign.
Then when he did get back to me, he stated to me that the reason he did not respond quickly was because it was best to reach him by email. . . which I did. It took him two weeks to get back to me.. . .after I sent numerous emails.
2) Bull-crap artist.. . .second warning sign.
Then when I asked him for a quote for a custom cam, he quoted me $400.00!!
3) Rip off Artist.. . . .final warning sign.
Mr. Brett Bauer POUND SALT MY FRIEND!!!!!!
I have documented the emails.
1) Lack of communication.....first warning sign.
Then when he did get back to me, he stated to me that the reason he did not respond quickly was because it was best to reach him by email. . . which I did. It took him two weeks to get back to me.. . .after I sent numerous emails.
2) Bull-crap artist.. . .second warning sign.
Then when I asked him for a quote for a custom cam, he quoted me $400.00!!
3) Rip off Artist.. . . .final warning sign.
Mr. Brett Bauer POUND SALT MY FRIEND!!!!!!
I have documented the emails.
On The Tree
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 150
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From: harrisburg PA
Some things that might help clear the air.
When I was told I would receive the intake manifold...and when I received it spanned almost 4 months. In my industry spring is the busiest season. I was asked to turn the manifold around in 2 weeks which would have been possible in the winter but not in the spring unless it was already scheduled for that time.
Lloyd was made aware of this and the decision was made to send it to Bauer due to the time frame Lloyd had availible to him.
BTW... You can stop telling people that you paid me also Josh, as we both know that is not true. At the time Lloyd decided he needed to take another path I was no longer involved in anyway with your project. If you believe that Lloyd should have waited until I had time to do the project then take that up with Lloyd.
Not be ask a dumb question.. But what problems are you seeing with the manifold other then the crack?
When I was told I would receive the intake manifold...and when I received it spanned almost 4 months. In my industry spring is the busiest season. I was asked to turn the manifold around in 2 weeks which would have been possible in the winter but not in the spring unless it was already scheduled for that time.
Lloyd was made aware of this and the decision was made to send it to Bauer due to the time frame Lloyd had availible to him.
BTW... You can stop telling people that you paid me also Josh, as we both know that is not true. At the time Lloyd decided he needed to take another path I was no longer involved in anyway with your project. If you believe that Lloyd should have waited until I had time to do the project then take that up with Lloyd.
Not be ask a dumb question.. But what problems are you seeing with the manifold other then the crack?
and honestly I think he would lose anyway b/c it could be chalked up to shipping damage, or be fixed he is only entitled to the repair cost. Also it would have to be filed wherever bret is located unless both parties agree to go thru an arbitrator like judge judy. Now I admit....I wouldnt mind sniffin them panties
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Is one of these him?
http://www.facebook.com/bret.bauer
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng.../photo_03.html
Dan
http://www.facebook.com/bret.bauer
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/eng.../photo_03.html
Dan
Mr. Brett Bauer claims to grind custom camshafts for folks, including the LT1. I tried to contact him for a custom cam. First I PM'd him and it took him about a week to get back to me.
1) Lack of communication.....first warning sign.
Then when I asked him for a quote for a custom cam, he quoted me $400.00!!
1) Lack of communication.....first warning sign.
Then when I asked him for a quote for a custom cam, he quoted me $400.00!!
As far as your issue with the intake goes, I'm sorry its turning out this way. My experience was slightly better.
Some things that might help clear the air.
When I was told I would receive the intake manifold...and when I received it spanned almost 4 months. In my industry spring is the busiest season. I was asked to turn the manifold around in 2 weeks which would have been possible in the winter but not in the spring unless it was already scheduled for that time.
Lloyd was made aware of this and the decision was made to send it to Bauer due to the time frame Lloyd had availible to him.
BTW... You can stop telling people that you paid me also Josh, as we both know that is not true. At the time Lloyd decided he needed to take another path I was no longer involved in anyway with your project. If you believe that Lloyd should have waited until I had time to do the project then take that up with Lloyd.
Not be ask a dumb question.. But what problems are you seeing with the manifold other then the crack?
When I was told I would receive the intake manifold...and when I received it spanned almost 4 months. In my industry spring is the busiest season. I was asked to turn the manifold around in 2 weeks which would have been possible in the winter but not in the spring unless it was already scheduled for that time.
Lloyd was made aware of this and the decision was made to send it to Bauer due to the time frame Lloyd had availible to him.
BTW... You can stop telling people that you paid me also Josh, as we both know that is not true. At the time Lloyd decided he needed to take another path I was no longer involved in anyway with your project. If you believe that Lloyd should have waited until I had time to do the project then take that up with Lloyd.
Not be ask a dumb question.. But what problems are you seeing with the manifold other then the crack?
i was never in contact with Bret Bauer, i was in contact with you through Lloyd. i sent a check to Lloyd with the money included that i was told was going to you to convert the intake. i didnt come on here bashing you saying that you treated me like Bret or anything else, just that i was not made aware of the decision to send the intake to Bauer racing engines. So i pay Lloyd, Lloyd paid you, you paid Bret right? i know that you didnt profit from the intake but money changed hands so many times (almost as many as the the blame) that i can only assume that this is how it went.
what problems? the fact that the holes in the intake arent round anymore? the gouges and scratches on the intake? the walls of the bolt holes so thin that theyll probably crack during installation? it looks like it was done with a fisher price tool set.
dude seriously it looks pretty normal, I dont see anything wrong with it
also he is right about the middle bolts hol;es. they wont work with that intake. SBC the holes are moved more inward from the runners. if he puts the hgoles in there you wont be able to get bolts in them they are too close to the runner. I used to have that intake and I just didnt use the center bolts, never had an issue.
Where are the gouges? those marks in the photo dont look like anything to get bent out of shape over....... im jsut saying id use it
also he is right about the middle bolts hol;es. they wont work with that intake. SBC the holes are moved more inward from the runners. if he puts the hgoles in there you wont be able to get bolts in them they are too close to the runner. I used to have that intake and I just didnt use the center bolts, never had an issue.
Where are the gouges? those marks in the photo dont look like anything to get bent out of shape over....... im jsut saying id use it
Last edited by mdacton; Apr 24, 2010 at 09:43 PM.
YOU HAD TO WAIT A YEAR FOR A SET OF DARTS and CUSTOM INTAKE!!!
He doesn't deal with customers. I'm not going to say the work he did for me was cheap or fast but then again I have to be worried if their shop wasn't busy. Yea he isn't on hardcore as SStrokerace anymore but his father is under OldStroker is or something close. I had to wait a year for a set of Darts and a custom intake. I burned thru 2 months of my terminal leave waiting for my intake to arrive. In the end the quality just about made up for the wait. As far as his prices go they may seem high at first but you really need to look at what your getting.
As far as your issue with the intake goes, I'm sorry its turning out this way. My experience was slightly better.
That's him and his dad.
As far as your issue with the intake goes, I'm sorry its turning out this way. My experience was slightly better.
That's him and his dad.
they're probably elongated to help make up for the diff. in the deck heights of any block let alone the angle of the cyl heads.. as far as the 8 holes vs 12.. You only need 4 per side since they really only have 2 major points of contact per side. i.e the front two cyl, and back 2 cyl.. so unless you plan on dropping this off a 100 story building, the extra bolts are just baggage..
Love the folk's wanting to inflict physical harm on another person.. i've met more dirt bag people in the military than i have in the real world.. and i did 10yrs
..
Run the intake it will function as was intended.. crack's in the face don't mean nothing again this is just a intake manifold.. if they were important.. they wouldn't be made of plastic nowadays..
Love the folk's wanting to inflict physical harm on another person.. i've met more dirt bag people in the military than i have in the real world.. and i did 10yrs
..Run the intake it will function as was intended.. crack's in the face don't mean nothing again this is just a intake manifold.. if they were important.. they wouldn't be made of plastic nowadays..
they're probably elongated to help make up for the diff. in the deck heights of any block let alone the angle of the cyl heads.. as far as the 8 holes vs 12.. You only need 4 per side since they really only have 2 major points of contact per side. i.e the front two cyl, and back 2 cyl.. so unless you plan on dropping this off a 100 story building, the extra bolts are just baggage..
Love the folk's wanting to inflict physical harm on another person.. i've met more dirt bag people in the military than i have in the real world.. and i did 10yrs..
Run the intake it will function as was intended.. crack's in the face don't mean nothing again this is just a intake manifold.. if they were important.. they wouldn't be made of plastic nowadays..
Love the folk's wanting to inflict physical harm on another person.. i've met more dirt bag people in the military than i have in the real world.. and i did 10yrs
..Run the intake it will function as was intended.. crack's in the face don't mean nothing again this is just a intake manifold.. if they were important.. they wouldn't be made of plastic nowadays..
the motor is costing around 12 grand, i would appreciate if it visually appeared that way. i would be ok if i nickled and dimed Bret and paid next to nothing for the conversion, because it looks like it was done for next to nothing.
yeah like i said, physical violence isnt an option.. i have too much to lose.
the motor is costing around 12 grand, i would appreciate if it visually appeared that way. i would be ok if i nickled and dimed Bret and paid next to nothing for the conversion, because it looks like it was done for next to nothing.
the motor is costing around 12 grand, i would appreciate if it visually appeared that way. i would be ok if i nickled and dimed Bret and paid next to nothing for the conversion, because it looks like it was done for next to nothing.
On The Tree
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 143
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From: N.E. PA
dude seriously it looks pretty normal, I dont see anything wrong with it
also he is right about the middle bolts hol;es. they wont work with that intake. SBC the holes are moved more inward from the runners. if he puts the hgoles in there you wont be able to get bolts in them they are too close to the runner. I used to have that intake and I just didnt use the center bolts, never had an issue.
Where are the gouges? those marks in the photo dont look like anything to get bent out of shape over....... im jsut saying id use it
also he is right about the middle bolts hol;es. they wont work with that intake. SBC the holes are moved more inward from the runners. if he puts the hgoles in there you wont be able to get bolts in them they are too close to the runner. I used to have that intake and I just didnt use the center bolts, never had an issue.
Where are the gouges? those marks in the photo dont look like anything to get bent out of shape over....... im jsut saying id use it
that is exactly what i told him over on cz28, but he just keeps changing his mind about what exactly the problem is. and he has people flaming me that dont even know what is going on
you cant post there but at least take a look
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749184
I suppose that you know more than Lloyd who told me to go with the Vic E.... its supposed to look like i paid $600 for it and like he cares about his work