sts?
you have a lot to learn
start here
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...est/index.html
that could be no further from the truth and is some **** straight out of the fast and the furious. not to mention you comment about autos and turbos
the only reason i posted is because i would hate to have someone listen to the information you posted and go around sounding like a complete ricer, and i even posted an article to back up what i said, which again i highly recommend you read
that could be no further from the truth and is some **** straight out of the fast and the furious. not to mention you comment about autos and turbos
the only reason i posted is because i would hate to have someone listen to the information you posted and go around sounding like a complete ricer, and i even posted an article to back up what i said, which again i highly recommend you read
The article you posted discusses modding the engine, which is outside the scope of the OPs intent. The OP was asking about boosting one particular example of an engine, and you and rob went off on a tangent about changing heads, cams, etc., not sure why.
I made the (apparently incorrect) assumption that you would size everything correctly for that one particular example of an engine, and that the engine would remain a constant.
Why anyone would not use the correctly sized compressor for the application is beyond me.
Autos love turbos, they put a load on the turbo so it will spin up faster.
It is also a given that the head/cam is the cheaper way to go, but the OP was asking about STS.
A stock engine with an STS turbo does not lope, and runs pretty much as smooth as stock as long as you stay out of the turbo, which cannot be said for a heads/cam vehicle.
stick with stock intake and spend ur $ on fuel system and management instead
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i was not aware of a "correct" size turbo or blower. you could have a small turbo on the street that spools up early, a medium turbo that spools up later but makes big power on the street. and you could have a big turbo that spools up late but make ridiculous power for the track. all would be the "correct" size for the application and make completely different power at 7 psi
all i am saying is that you were wrong in your statement, and that you need to do some more learning before you go giving "information"
i was not aware of a "correct" size turbo or blower. you could have a small turbo on the street that spools up early, a medium turbo that spools up later but makes big power on the street. and you could have a big turbo that spools up late but make ridiculous power for the track. all would be the "correct" size for the application and make completely different power at 7 psi
all i am saying is that you were wrong in your statement, and that you need to do some more learning before you go giving "information"
Now, back to the technical aspects of my post.
In the first post in this thread, the OP listed 3 constants and asked for an output.
Constant 1 is the engine, an LT1. Since no mods were listed, we can assume a bone-stock LT1 whose characteristics are well documented, including a 5700 rpm redline and a peak power of around 5400 rpm.
Constant 2 is the required boost, 7 psi. Since we can calculate how much air an LT1 requires at 5700 rpm, and further calculate how much air it takes to boost the pressure to 7 psi, the total volume required can be calculated as well.
Constant 3 is the FI system, an STS system. Since they only offer a GT60 or a GT67 turbo, any discussion of different turbos and their compressor maps is irrelevant to this thread.
The output was easy; I owned just such a system for several years, and I posted it. A 97 LT1 with a GT67 and 42 pound injectors (and a supporting Walbro) will output ~400 rwhp through an automatic.
Second, the OP mentioned a Vortech supercharger as an alternative. The engine remained a constant, the amount of boost remained a constant, therefore the volume of air the Vortech must supply must also be the same calculated value. Again, Vortech has done all the homework and can supply the correct supercharger and pulley to supply the required volume of air, and hence the 7 pounds of boost. Boost is boost, no matter whether it is supplied by a Vortech, a Procharger, or an STS. The volume of air required can be calculated given all the constants supplied. If you want to go your own way and choose your components, that is entirely different. But this thread was only about manufactured systems, not do-it-yourself systems.
Finally, I must work on my communication skills. Clearly I did not communicate well enough, given that it was misinterpreted so badly.
And before you start sending people to turbo 101 or engine efficiency 101, you really need to ask for clarification first. The point of posting is to help the OP, not try to belittle those who are trying to help.
i tried to help you understand, volume of air is much more important than pressure - like i explained with my different size turbo explanation. they make several different size blowers also, do you think a big f1r will make the same power at 7 psi as a sts with the small turbo at 7psi?
even just using your example - do you think using a sts gt60 at 7psi will make the same power if you swap the turbo to a gt67 and run 7psi? of course not, but why? they are both the "correct"(as you say) size and at the same boost level
i dont blame you for being confused about it, it is difficult to understand
i tried to help you understand, volume of air is much more important than pressure - like i explained with my different size turbo explanation. they make several different size blowers also, do you think a big f1r will make the same power at 7 psi as a sts with the small turbo at 7psi?
even just using your example - do you think using a sts gt60 at 7psi will make the same power if you swap the turbo to a gt67 and run 7psi? of course not, but why? they are both the "correct"(as you say) size and at the same boost level
i dont blame you for being confused about it, it is difficult to understand
You and rob were both going on about engine modifications, wild compressor choices, and all that off the wall stuff. The OP was asking about very specific compressor choices with absolutely no engine modifications whatsoever.






