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Old May 22, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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i went to the stealership and bought/ordered 2 ac Delco o2's and got em same day....$49 ea....anyhow i'm posting some pic's in the forum on how the Bosch's looked when i removed them.. they were only a few months old i put them in when i did llp's, progressively car started running shittier. PS Bosch is black and sooted, DS is not nearly as sooted...i haven't tuned for the llp's,no cats,& no egr yet. i want some input/opinions on why car is running so rich PS.. take a look PS is on right in pic, could the stock tune really be that far off or do would an exaust leak have caused this or maybe a injector hanging open? also i keep getting a code 26 .i've switched out the sensor checked the hoses and wiring under the hood with no luck...thanks for the input !
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Old May 22, 2010 | 12:09 PM
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How rich are you running? Do you have an AFRG? An exhaust leak can cause a rich condition, and so can an injector.
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i dont have an AFRG, i replaced slip on joints with turbo flanges and gaskets to ensure no leaks @ connections,..(may,i stress,may) be a minor manifold leak,i say that because i do hear a tick like sound more so on the PS than the DS i have tightened the bolts the best they can be. two of the six bolts you cannot put a wrench on because of improper bolt/header pipe clearence and those are allen keyed for tightening.

P.S. i changed plugs and #6 was black but all the others were not . just throw'n that out there
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Old May 22, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by defaultexistence
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P.S. i changed plugs and #6 was black but all the others were not . just throw'n that out there
Check the vacuum line going to the f/p regulator. If the regulator is leaking gas will be pulled into that vacuum line and dump it right on #6.
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Check the vacuum line going to the f/p regulator. If the regulator is leaking gas will be pulled into that vacuum line and dump it right on #6.
very true. but also.. why are you running single wire o2's ? is that a 93 thing ?
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Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT
very true. but also.. why are you running single wire o2's ? is that a 93 thing ?
Yes, 93s are unheated, 1 wire O2s.
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Originally Posted by shbox
Check the vacuum line going to the f/p regulator. If the regulator is leaking gas will be pulled into that vacuum line and dump it right on #6.
ok,thanks checked it out...reg doesnt seem to be leaking..

idle pressure @ rail is 38ish and over 40 a bit w/o vac line .

just in case i go get one for ***** n grins, what is a DELCO part number for the 93 FPR?
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anyone else got some ideas here?
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17107491 is the part number.
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Old May 23, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Honestly, thats just how bosch runs, at least in 93. Made mine run pig rich too, and they were as black as that.

I put some ac delco's in and ive been fine since then. Bosch also gave me crappy gas mileage, I couldnt get above 170miles per tank (hwy/street) to save my life.

Oh and mine were only a few months old before I yanked them out, actually one had failed and threw a SES light which the code was for bad o2 on the right bank.
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Honestly, thats just how bosch runs, at least in 93. Made mine run pig rich too, and they were as black as that.

I put some ac delco's in and ive been fine since then. Bosch also gave me crappy gas mileage, I couldnt get above 170miles per tank (hwy/street) to save my life.

Oh and mine were only a few months old before I yanked them out, actually one had failed and threw a SES light which the code was for bad o2 on the right bank.


Exactly the same results for me........interesting.....how do they get away with this shitty of a result from their product...............QC guy needs fired
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Old May 25, 2010 | 02:53 AM
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I dont know, they might run fine in the later year models 94+ since they are heated, but us single wire 93 guys they run like crap.
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