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Old May 31, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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Need some oppinions on mid/shorty headers. Been looking at pacesetters, edelbrock, hooker and Mac. Leaning toward Pacesetters but any info would be appreciated.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Why not LTs?
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Old May 31, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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I have hookers. I didn't install them but plug access is 100x better than it was with my old pacesetter longtubes. They are rusted because they aren't coated but don't leak.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Emissions. I can get away with Mids but LTs would be iffy and I'm not gonna try it.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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I would not put any other mid on my car but the MAC mids if i had to get rid of my Pacesetter Lts
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Old May 31, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Macs are just so ugly though lol but they are the ones I looked at most.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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LOL, our cars make it hard to see headers... Ugly and perform very well vs. good looking and barely usefull....
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Old May 31, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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RKSport also makes a mid-length header and Arizona Speed & Marine makes a header that they call a long tube but by looking at them they appear to be a mid-length. Whichever header you choose I would suggest getting 1 3/4" diameter primaries so you don't choke the car if/when you perform more mods in the future.
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Old May 31, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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MACS are the best midlengths. I love mine. Plugs are easy to get to and to me, my coated ones look great.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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I have Pacesetter ceramic coated mids I got new off of Ebay with a coated y-pipe. Fit up ok, I had to dent 2 primaries on drivers side to clear steering shaft/knuckle but otherwise they bolted right in. I also am having a little trouble with the coating on the y-pipe. I think there is a specific break in procedure that you are supposed to follow for ceramic coatings. I either did not wipe the pipe down enough after install or the coating got something splashed on it b/c the y-pipe(only the y-pipe not headers) has burnt the coating off. The headers are still in great shape. I installed them 4 1/2 years ago with copper gaskets that came with them and stainless 6 point arp bolts. No leaks from the header to the heads, but slight leak from header to y-pipe. Y-pipe is actually coming off tonight to be re-coated.
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they have emissions tests in nashville? i have longtubes and i bought my car from there and didnt here about any issues and they're pretty well hidden. But as stated by stealthformula, get 1 3/4's so it can breathe well
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A 350 cubic inch motor will not be choked by 1-5/8 headers by any means that was the job of the stock manifolds. The 1-3/4 dia. do offer alot of space to grow and of course the 1-7/8+ for fully modded high comp. motors.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Yea nashville has emissions I'm actually in Williamson county which is worse. So is the claim of 29 rwhp on the macs true or a selling pitch cause that seems like alot lol. One more thing, if I go Macs would I benefit from jet coating them?
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I like my BBK shorties bought the car with them on it tho, I would have done long tubes myself. However, my shorties are ceramic coated, and flow worlds better than a factory manifold anyway
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I say go with Mid-Length. First thing i bought for mine were BBK chromed shorties and now that I have done Heads/Cam and bolt ons I feel the shorties are holding me back as far as making power. Fitment was good and i got the chrome and they still look good and ive had them from roughly 3-4 years. Now im trying to get rid of the shorties and go with LT.
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Originally Posted by 95BlkBird
Yea nashville has emissions I'm actually in Williamson county which is worse. So is the claim of 29 rwhp on the macs true or a selling pitch cause that seems like alot lol. One more thing, if I go Macs would I benefit from jet coating them?
check out my for sale thread in my sig. You get the high flow cats and coated headers and they are 1 3/4". This setup new was around 1200
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I Loved my macs. they are a very good designed header that gave plenty of clearance. I still have them and there in good shape. PM me an offer if youd like
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