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Old 08-09-2010, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam1203


im curious to know if it could create engine slugging.
Yes it does, I have 160* with hypertech tune, to get fan turn on at 160*, I felt it loose couple hp cause the fan running whole time. After I take the tune off and return back to stock setting, im feeling alot better respond from the car.
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
In the summer my car gets up to 190 in the city with a 160 thermostat and a becool radiator.
Originally Posted by Adam1203
on the highway you should run about 160 with a 160 stat. but in the city its all going to depend on what your fans are set at and what there capable of cooling.
I run a 160 & a becool as well w/ a stock h2o pump and it always runs between 170-180. a 160stat should not make you run @ 160..
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
I run a 160 & a becool as well w/ a stock h2o pump and it always runs between 170-180. a 160stat should not make you run @ 160..
How you like becool radiator ?
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
I run a 160 & a becool as well w/ a stock h2o pump and it always runs between 170-180. a 160stat should not make you run @ 160..
a 160 stat should be open at a 160 degrees if you have a efficient radiator that is capable of bringing the temps down that low a highway speed it should bring it down close to that temp before the state closes.

if you running 170-180 all the time then your state would be open all the time. maybe the 160 stats arnt really set at 160.
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Originally Posted by Adam1203
a 160 stat should be open at a 160 degrees if you have a efficient radiator that is capable of bringing the temps down that low a highway speed it should bring it down close to that temp before the state closes.

if you running 170-180 all the time then your state would be open all the time. maybe the 160 stats arnt really set at 160.
you right, when im cruising it stay at 170 and when im in hot weather day stop and go, it go up to closer to 200. that with 160 stat.
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Originally Posted by Adam1203
on the highway you should run about 160 with a 160 stat. but in the city its all going to depend on what your fans are set at and what there capable of cooling.
With my 160 stat and cruising I see about 194 degrees.
I guess I can lower my temps some with the fans. But what else could cause a motor (see sig) to run hotter?
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Originally Posted by Adam1203
a 160 stat should be open at a 160 degrees if you have a efficient radiator that is capable of bringing the temps down that low a highway speed it should bring it down close to that temp before the state closes.

if you running 170-180 all the time then your state would be open all the time. maybe the 160 stats arnt really set at 160.
show me an LT1 w/ a 160tstat that runs at 160 -and a becool is bigger than a stock radiator btw
killaGT- its just a radiator and def not worth the $$ imo but it came w/ the car so w/e but its overkill..
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
show me an LT1 w/ a 160tstat that runs at 160 -and a becool is bigger than a stock radiator btw
killaGT- its just a radiator and def not worth the $$ imo but it came w/ the car so w/e but its overkill..
again who makes 160 stats? most people buy hypertec and who is to say its a true 160 stat? the stat opens is to open at 160 its not odd to see 10+ degrees but you should at times see close to 160 when cruising. Also what are you using to check you temps? the gauge on the dash or scanner? my scanner fluctuates and shows different temps then the gauge at times. the guage seems to kinda on the sluggish side and shows an average or close to temp not an exact temp.
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
show me an LT1 w/ a 160tstat that runs at 160 -and a becool is bigger than a stock radiator btw
killaGT- its just a radiator and def not worth the $$ imo but it came w/ the car so w/e but its overkill..
When I ran a 160* thermostat my car did get close if not at 160 during cooler days on the highway cruising.

I run the stock 195 (i believe) now, just have fans set to kick on appropriately, never goes above halfway point on the stock gauge.
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yea I might of just backed myself into a hole on that one, I shoulda said 'during the summer' which is when I usually drive mine. and from what I've seen most people w/ a 160 run around the same or higher temps than me. if I did drive mine in the colder months I certainly wouldn't be running a 160tstat cause having it actually run around 160 is too cool from what I've been told.
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stock is 180*
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chavez885,
Stock is 180 degrees, thank you for proving what I said above about folks ignorantly assuming 195 is stock.

A car will not run right at the stat temp unless the stat has been drilled or the like.

With a 160 stat I expect to see about 175, with a 180 I see 195. At least with my car it takes relatively little forward motion to cool them, fan really only run with the AC or stopped.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
A car will not run right at the stat temp unless the stat has been drilled or the like.
im calling bs on this. my old tpi vett ran at 190 or close to the 190 stat as well as other vehicles i have had.

i said an efficient radiator. i should also add the ability to have enough airflow to cool that radiator.

i took the camaro for a spin to check running temps. its 81-82 out side according to my f350 and my car ran give or take 195 with a 180 stat. thats based on scanner data not the gauge and a speed of 50. the low was 194.8 with a high of 198.7 about a 8-10 mile stretch of highway and a prior temp of 200 before hitting the highway.

must have something to do with sensor placement or the cooling system its self. it doesn't change when the tstat opens and closes.

i wish i had a laser temperature gun as i would love to read what the cooling hoses were reading
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I am basing my comments on a decade of experience with LT1 cars(at least a dozen) using pcm scanning software to read accurate temps.

Such a thing is meaningless to you kids though. I mean who cares about long term experience with the specific application being discussed here?
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Originally Posted by Adam1203
im calling bs on this.

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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
chavez885,
Stock is 180 degrees, thank you for proving what I said above about folks ignorantly assuming 195 is stock.

A car will not run right at the stat temp unless the stat has been drilled or the like.

With a 160 stat I expect to see about 175, with a 180 I see 195. At least with my car it takes relatively little forward motion to cool them, fan really only run with the AC or stopped.
Yeah I've heard many arguments about what the stock t-stat was I wasn't sure hence the question mark Thanks for the heads up.

Halfway mark is 205 on the f-body gauge? I know mine sits about halfway between 160 and the half mark while cruising. At a stop it goes to the halfway mark with my the tune.
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Don't go by the gauges 100%. They are notoriously inaccurate, not only for the scaling of the gauges but the PCM reads the coolant temperature from a completely different part of the cooling system. There have been instances where I have seen (in real life, go figure) upwards of a 15 degree difference between what the PCM sees and what the dash sees.
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak

hey you dont like my thread you can feel free to not participate.
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
I am basing my comments on a decade of experience with LT1 cars(at least a dozen) using pcm scanning software to read accurate temps.

Such a thing is meaningless to you kids though. I mean who cares about long term experience with the specific application being discussed here?
sorry to second guess your expertize. why dont you explain exactly to us that the lt1 runs far hotter then thermostat settings compared to other vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Adam1203
sorry to second guess your expertize. why dont you explain exactly to us that the lt1 runs far hotter then thermostat settings compared to other vehicles.
Reverse. Flow. Cooling.



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