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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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Default True Duals = True Quiets

Was running PS Longtubes 3" Summit X open. Was very loud. sounded amazing. But had 0 back pressure, and was a little obnoxious.
Now im running the same setup but with two 2 chamber flowmasters.
Im in love with the exhaust note. However it is entirely too quiet for a car running longtubes and true duals.

How would these compare against single chambers?
And am i losing or canceling out any advantages i would have over running another muffler setup?
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Yes chokemasters suck as far as flow goes. The have a good tone but not so much towards the performance aspect of things.

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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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What is this back pressure you speak of

Anyways food for thought an optimal exhaust over any setup is headers with extensions which is a small section of pipe running off each header with no x over. Your setup would be no different then anyone else who runs an X pipe who claims its the best setup out there, maybe in the case of street use it is but other then that meh mostly just extra weight.

Anyways getting back more on topic flowmasters are not really the best to be using especially a 2 chamber if your looking for loud. Go with some type of bullet muffler on your X.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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my borla xr1s are quiet at idle but scream at wot.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Moroso Spiral Flow's here.. Love them. Not too loud at idle/cruising but sound amazing at WOT
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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get you some cutouts, problem solved. Quiet when you want it, loud and nasty with better flow when you need it.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemesis350
get you some cutouts, problem solved. Quiet when you want it, loud and nasty with better flow when you need it.
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I have them on my Nova. And boy is it fun to play with the ricers. Instantly **** bricks when you crack em open!
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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I was searching craigslist yesterday and saw your car on there, thought I remembered seeing it somewheres else.

A buddy of mine has ran both the two chamber 40's and the single chambers and the single chambers are definitely louder. I think the two chambers have a better tone but if you still want that flowmaster tone then I would get the single chambers otherwise I would suggest a bullet style muffler.
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Dynomax bullets, even on a stock LS1 with mids/dump they sound quiet at idle, but bark with authority if you get on it. I don't think I will ever run another muffler unless I have to be very quiet for some reason.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Ive been running 3" dual single chamber flowmaster for over 2 years, love it never get tired of hearing it.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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look up some (classic chambered) mufflers. I think they might be just the ticket
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Dynatech LT's to 3" true duals w/ spintech bullets dumped before the rear axle. sounds friggin AMAZING.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Ok i keep hearing **** about flowmasters, can someone show me dyno proven numbers that flowmasters are that bad?
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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40s have always sounded loud to me. I had 1 chambers and they don't have nearly as good of a tone as the 40s. I think your problem is you need more power. Slide a big cam in there and it'll liven up some.

I would go with one chambers over bullets any day though.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1GYws9Wso0
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jay7199
Ok i keep hearing **** about flowmasters, can someone show me dyno proven numbers that flowmasters are that bad?
it's right here:
Originally Posted by FAST LS1
The results in HP order:
1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):

1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No Muffler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).


http://forums.stangnet.com/archive/index.php/t-392314

The Hooker Maxflow made the best power while still being very quiet at idle/2000rpm, but nice and loud at WOT. The Bassani Real Street also made nice power without being too loud. Anybody have any feedback on these mufflers?
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^ thats an awesome list!
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Flowmasters flow fine in their straight through mufflers. The crossflow that goes into the stock location is why flowmasters have such a bad rap around here because that specific muffler doesn't flow as good as others. With mufflers, you have quiet or free-flowing, or somewhere in between. Not both 99.9% of the time. The act of quieting is restrictive by design.

OP, make the switch to single chambers, I think that will do what you want.
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Old Oct 1, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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that list has been around a while, seen it on hotrodder.net i think..

theres another list floating around that has the summit branded mufflers on it and they were in 2nd place...

hard to beat a mesh core glasspack for all out flow..

i think the best flowing muffler at the moment is the magnaflow ultraflo.. then the flowmaster delta flo's are good..
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Add more power. My duals weren't bad at 375rwhp, but at 430rwhp and a healthy cam they were obnoxious. Hell my 2otl is pretty damn loud too.
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