Oil restrictor or don't worry about it
10-14-2010, 08:05 AM
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You're going to be waiting for a while. I already said that's not what I was suggesting. Sorry if my post is misleading or doesn't meet the stringent LS1Tech standards for grammar, get over it.
Once again, people trying to be drama queens.
Once again, people trying to be drama queens.
10-14-2010, 08:17 AM
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It has nothing to do with being a drama queen. You come in here and make absurd comments of what the op should do, backpeddle and become butt hurt when your comments are challenged. If it is indeed true that is not what you meant and it was a simple grammatical error that doesn't cover the fact that you believe oil should be controlled to the front or rear of the block. That is yet another retarded statement perhaps you heard regurgitated from someone else. Care to disclaim yourself from that comment as well?
10-14-2010, 08:23 AM
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Quit trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. In the first sentence of my post I said, "Not that I think you are going all out." Meaning that the rest of my post was based upon someone who wanted to go all out would want to control the oil flow away from the RA.
******* drama queens on this site, I swear.
******* drama queens on this site, I swear.
10-14-2010, 08:26 AM
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It has nothing to do with being a drama queen. You come in here and make absurd comments of what the op should do, backpeddle and become butt hurt when your comments are challenged. If it is indeed true that is not what you meant and it was a simple grammatical error that doesn't cover the fact that you believe oil should be controlled to the front or rear of the block. That is yet another retarded statement perhaps you heard regurgitated from someone else. Care to disclaim yourself from that comment as well?
Edit: Before you come back and ask for proof or whatever, it's on you to prove why you think I'm full of ****. You're the one who says that it's all bullshit, prove it.
10-14-2010, 08:47 AM
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Haven't backpeddaled on anything, it's still true that for an all out motor you want to control the flow of oil away from the RA, meaning you don't want it dripping down the center of the block. You want it to go to the front and rear of the valley. People even go the extra step to epoxy up the valley as well, and no I don't mean screens. Why is that so hard to understand? Why do you think that it's not valid or important to do?
Edit: Before you come back and ask for proof or whatever, it's on you to prove why you think I'm full of ****. You're the one who says that it's all bullshit, prove it.
Edit: Before you come back and ask for proof or whatever, it's on you to prove why you think I'm full of ****. You're the one who says that it's all bullshit, prove it.
This is a repeated trend for you. You get on here, make a dumb comment, get **** on and you lose your mind bitching about content. This place functions just fine without you. You don't own a LT1 engine. Like the fatboy, it's questionable if you've ever worked on one and you aren't interested in racing, so I'm not sure why you are even here.
I fully believe your car runs what it does. Please supply link.
Found this one:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13874437-post8.html
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10-14-2010, 08:59 AM
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Oh I believe it's been done. What you are failing to understand is that it is bullshit to do it in most every application on this site. In the 15 years I've been involved with these engines I've never seen or heard someone suggest this. I've never seen or heard of any sort of engine failure because your epoxy/vent tube suggestion wasn't done. I have no idea how effective it is. It just puzzles me why you would suggest it while stating it's not for a street engine. As stated, for street applications the oiling system works just fine w/out having to modify or control anything. Only secret is to have a good windage tray.
This is a repeated trend for you. You get on here, make a dumb comment, get **** on and you lose your mind bitching about content. This place functions just fine without you. You don't own a LT1 engine. Like the fatboy, it's questionable if you've ever worked on one and you aren't interested in racing, so I'm not sure why you are even here.
I did?
I fully believe your car runs what it does. Please supply link.
Found this one:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13874437-post8.html
This is a repeated trend for you. You get on here, make a dumb comment, get **** on and you lose your mind bitching about content. This place functions just fine without you. You don't own a LT1 engine. Like the fatboy, it's questionable if you've ever worked on one and you aren't interested in racing, so I'm not sure why you are even here.
I did?
I fully believe your car runs what it does. Please supply link.
Found this one:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13874437-post8.html
10-14-2010, 09:04 AM
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Oh I believe it's been done. What you are failing to understand is that it is bullshit to do it in most every application on this site. In the 15 years I've been involved with these engines I've never seen or heard someone suggest this. I've never seen or heard of any sort of engine failure because your epoxy/vent tube suggestion wasn't done. I have no idea how effective it is. It just puzzles me why you would suggest it while stating it's not for a street engine. As stated, for street applications the oiling system works just fine w/out having to modify anything.
This is a repeated trend for you. You get on here, make a dumb comment, get **** on and you lose your mind bitching about content. This place functions just fine without you. You don't own a LT1 engine. Like the fatboy, it's questionable if you've ever worked on one and you aren't interested in racing, so I'm not sure why you are even here.
This is a repeated trend for you. You get on here, make a dumb comment, get **** on and you lose your mind bitching about content. This place functions just fine without you. You don't own a LT1 engine. Like the fatboy, it's questionable if you've ever worked on one and you aren't interested in racing, so I'm not sure why you are even here.
Where did I say that his engine would fail if he didn't do it?
It puzzles me that you have no idea how effective it is or what the benefits are yet you want to start some internet bullshit stating I'm full of ****.
The OP was concerned that leaving the WP bearing hole open would somehow adversely effect his oil control by letting the oil drain back too fast to the front of the motor. I simply stated that if he was building an all out engine, he would actually want the oil to go the front of the engine and that if anything he would actually take steps to keep the oil from draining through the center of the valley as well because it drips down over the cam and crank.
This is a fairly common practice, I'm sure a search would yeild you some good reading material. You will probably find several vendors who sell plugs, epoxy and screens for it as well.
The only common link is you, I'm sorry you feel you have to police threads on LS1Tech to make sure the content is acceptable to you, maybe you should become a moderator and get paid for it.
I'm out.
10-14-2010, 10:09 AM
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I'm sorry you haven't heard someone suggest controling oil drain back before.
Where did I say that his engine would fail if he didn't do it?
It puzzles me that you have no idea how effective it is or what the benefits are yet you want to start some internet bullshit stating I'm full of ****.
The OP was concerned that leaving the WP bearing hole open would somehow adversely effect his oil control by letting the oil drain back too fast to the front of the motor. I simply stated that if he was building an all out engine, he would actually want the oil to go the front of the engine and that if anything he would actually take steps to keep the oil from draining through the center of the valley as well because it drips down over the cam and crank.
This is a fairly common practice, I'm sure a search would yeild you some good reading material. You will probably find several vendors who sell plugs, epoxy and screens for it as well.
The only common link is you, I'm sorry you feel you have to police threads on LS1Tech to make sure the content is acceptable to you, maybe you should become a moderator and get paid for it.
I'm out.
Where did I say that his engine would fail if he didn't do it?
It puzzles me that you have no idea how effective it is or what the benefits are yet you want to start some internet bullshit stating I'm full of ****.
The OP was concerned that leaving the WP bearing hole open would somehow adversely effect his oil control by letting the oil drain back too fast to the front of the motor. I simply stated that if he was building an all out engine, he would actually want the oil to go the front of the engine and that if anything he would actually take steps to keep the oil from draining through the center of the valley as well because it drips down over the cam and crank.
This is a fairly common practice, I'm sure a search would yeild you some good reading material. You will probably find several vendors who sell plugs, epoxy and screens for it as well.
The only common link is you, I'm sorry you feel you have to police threads on LS1Tech to make sure the content is acceptable to you, maybe you should become a moderator and get paid for it.
I'm out.
It's a pity you feel you've been "policed." All I did was question your motive, which is ridiculous and very poorly written. You get offended and backpeddle. Not my problem.
10-14-2010, 10:31 AM
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As I said, it is not common practice nor is it necessary on most every setup that has graced these forums. I have no idea how effective it is because I've never had to do it nor have I seen anyone over the years say it was necessary on a LT1 engine. Oil drain back is a non issue so taking steps to control it are not necessary regardless of your "drips down the camshaft/crank..." theory. The only problem that has been apparent over the years are windage issues and as stated, the correct windage tray will remedy the situation. Perhaps it is you who should do a little more research before stating such things? Or you should let those who've done more than a cam change on a LT1 answer?
It's a pity you feel you've been "policed." All I did was question your motive, which is ridiculous and very poorly written. You get offended and backpeddle. Not my problem.
It's a pity you feel you've been "policed." All I did was question your motive, which is ridiculous and very poorly written. You get offended and backpeddle. Not my problem.
Motive??? How can a motive be poorly written? Maybe you meant my facts are poorly written?
Please, continue back peddling and try not to trip over your previous posts anymore.
10-14-2010, 11:04 AM
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Since you feel the need to argue semantics, let's dissect this so hopefully you will understand:
It's not common practice to use your suggestion on most every combination in existence in the LT1 world. It is utterly retarded to suggest doing this when it isn't necessary for oil control and when you have no idea of the setup.
Never said that. What was questioned is why you would suggest this when you have no idea of the combination. Re-read, it's all there.
No. Your subject matter, which is poorly written. The phrase "question your motive" is perfectly acceptable.
Anything else you want to try to divert away from the topic?
Please quote where I said it was necessary and that his **** would blow up if he didn't do it.
Motive??? How can a motive be poorly written? Maybe you meant my facts are poorly written?
Please, continue back peddling and try not to trip over your previous posts anymore.
10-14-2010, 11:21 AM
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I never said it was common practice on every LT1 setup, I said if he was going all out. My whole arguement was based on my first post where in the first words I said not that I think you are going all out, but if you were.......... I'm not sure why you continue to try and back pedal from you orginal stmt that it's an utterly retarded idea. Now you are trying to deflect that it not retarded anymore, but it's not necessary on most of the LT1 setups.
You did say that, you said that you've never seen or heard of an engine failure from someone not using oil restrictors. I asked you to quote where I said he has to use them or his **** will blow up. You can't because I didn't.
You said, All I did was question your motive, which is ridiculous and very poorly written. So again I ask you, how can a motive be poorly written?
I'm not diverting, my post is factually correct. You're the one who has a problem with it and look like an ******* because at the beginning of this thread you are trying to call me out and say the idea is utterly retarded and then after some research my post isn't utterly retarded anymore, it's simply too much information and not needed for this particular thread. Heaven forbid that someone doesn't come in and simply post "no, it's not needed."
I see that you've already gone into Gizmo's thread and **** on that one too, since he uses restrictors in his builds as well. He even says that on the first page, while he doesn't do it on street cars, he has noticed no ill effects of doing it on his race cars that would lead him to believe that it would hurt anything on a street engine. Are you now saying that Gizmo is full of **** too? Maybe he is why you are changing your story from it being utterly retarded to not necessary on a street car?
You did say that, you said that you've never seen or heard of an engine failure from someone not using oil restrictors. I asked you to quote where I said he has to use them or his **** will blow up. You can't because I didn't.
You said, All I did was question your motive, which is ridiculous and very poorly written. So again I ask you, how can a motive be poorly written?
I'm not diverting, my post is factually correct. You're the one who has a problem with it and look like an ******* because at the beginning of this thread you are trying to call me out and say the idea is utterly retarded and then after some research my post isn't utterly retarded anymore, it's simply too much information and not needed for this particular thread. Heaven forbid that someone doesn't come in and simply post "no, it's not needed."
I see that you've already gone into Gizmo's thread and **** on that one too, since he uses restrictors in his builds as well. He even says that on the first page, while he doesn't do it on street cars, he has noticed no ill effects of doing it on his race cars that would lead him to believe that it would hurt anything on a street engine. Are you now saying that Gizmo is full of **** too? Maybe he is why you are changing your story from it being utterly retarded to not necessary on a street car?
10-14-2010, 11:56 AM
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I never said it was common practice on every LT1 setup, I said if he was going all out. My whole arguement was based on my first post where in the first words I said not that I think you are going all out, but if you were.......... I'm not sure why you continue to try and back pedal from you orginal stmt that it's an utterly retarded idea. Now you are trying to deflect that it not retarded anymore, but it's not necessary on most of the LT1 setups.
You did say that, you said that you've never seen or heard of an engine failure from someone not using oil restrictors. I asked you to quote where I said he has to use them or his **** will blow up. You can't because I didn't.
You said, All I did was question your motive, which is ridiculous and very poorly written. So again I ask you, how can a motive be poorly written?
I'm not diverting, my post is factually correct. You're the one who has a problem with it and look like an ******* because at the beginning of this thread you are trying to call me out and say the idea is utterly retarded and then after some research my post isn't utterly retarded anymore, it's simply too much information and not needed for this particular thread. Heaven forbid that someone doesn't come in and simply post "no, it's not needed."
I see that you've already gone into Gizmo's thread and **** on that one too, since he uses restrictors in his builds as well. He even says that on the first page, while he doesn't do it on street cars, he has noticed no ill effects of doing it on his race cars that would lead him to believe that it would hurt anything on a street engine. Are you now saying that Gizmo is full of **** too? Maybe he is why you are changing your story from it being utterly retarded to not necessary on a street car?
10-14-2010, 12:51 PM
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Wow, you filled up a whole post and yet said nothing. You even furthered you ignorance by posting that "motive" can mean subject matter. 
Keep digging Jr.
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10-14-2010, 12:57 PM
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guys, your bickering may have something to do with the op's question, but youve gotten so far of course in a pissing into the wind contest its amazing. now lets stop i think the op got enough info. can we all settle down and be friends now.