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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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In need of some help here with the crank hub. Some background on the car; 96 Formula A4 bought it for 680 with no rear end and multiple other things. I got it in a no start condition and had to get a new opti when doing so I noticed the crank pulley and hub where off and i recently decided to put the hub back in. I first noticed that the hub seemed to be pretty rough here are some pics.



It seems like if someone hacked it up pretty good and the hole in the middle seems kinda oval instead of a circle. Wondering what i can do from here? I got another hub and pulley from a 95 Camaro and wondering if i can go that route?
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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good lawd

yeah, you got yourself a good paper weight... thats about it
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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how the hell do you do that? Makes me wonder what the crank itself is like, does the bolt even thread into the end of the crank? Looks like a hammer was involved, I hope the major beatdown took place after it was off the car, which in that case is beleiveable lol.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:18 PM
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Trust me im in shock as well i almost got this car put together and now i hit this bump....so will that 95 hub work if the crank isnt messed up?
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by trilkb
how the hell do you do that? Makes me wonder what the crank itself is like, does the bolt even thread into the end of the crank? Looks like a hammer was involved, I hope the major beatdown took place after it was off the car, which in that case is beleiveable lol.
^ this. Check to make sure the threads in the crank snout are good. I have jacked them up just turning the motor over with that bolt w/out a spacer. Now i have a BBC crank snout. not fun to take a newly assembled motor apart so you can take the crank to the machine shop lol.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Ya i have to check sometime tomorrow but i dont even have the bolt either so how would i be able to check the thread?
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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I think I got a spare one laying around. The reason that hub looks like that is because the stock hubs are pressed onto the snout of the crankshaft. To get it off you need to put a bolt that is smaller than the actual crank snout bolt. Then you use a gear puller or a hub puller and push against the undersized bolt to pull the hub off.

What they did is put a gear puller in there, and proceeded to impact it until they started to bend the tabs. Then they finally realized that messed something up, and then used the above method.

Get a new hub, if you can wait a week and will pay shipping I have that spare one. The reason I don't need it is because I run a aftermarket crank with a keyway for my ATI superdamper. Actually I know LT1 Corvette crankshafts have a keyway in them from the factory, which I don't know why. Also inspect that crankshaft snout.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Noice thats a good guess at what happened cuz i know the guy i bought it off of was an ls1 owner and he didnt know much about lt1's. I got a hub but from a 95 Camaro would that work? I cant spend anymore money till bout a month from now? Also what size bolt can i use to check the thread?
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Xposure
so will that 95 hub work if the crank isnt messed up?
No it won't work. The 96-97 is different because of the reluctor wheel for the crank sensor.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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thanx flame i guess im stuck w/o the pulley on for a while
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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No it won't work. The 96-97 is different because of the reluctor wheel for the crank sensor.
Can he machine it down so that it doesn't touch the reluctor wheel? As long as it gets past the lip seal on the timing cover but doesn't press against the reluctor wheel it should be okay. As for the bolt, a Chevy SB harmonic damper bolt will work just fine, it is a 7/16"-20 thread and 2-1/2" long.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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The 96+ hub is less than .100" shorter. You can use the 95 hub if you sand it down.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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I have a crank hub for sale with less than 10k on it. I bought a new one when I did the heads and cam last time around.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:30 PM
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RamAir95TA would it be worth sanding down or should i just get the one that is the right year?
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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If it were me, I'd just sand it down, because I have a sanding table and a mill at my disposal. If you choose that route, just measure in a tenth of an inch and mark a ring around it, then grind/sand away.

Doesn't matter either way.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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680, why not 650 or 700?
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pro94lt
680, why not 650 or 700?
Welcome to the world of negotiating.
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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jegs has a nice one or Use a stock one off ebay
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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I got to check the threads and it all seems good there the bolt when in there with ease a couple of times. Should i check anything else?
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