who got the idea that lt1's arent fast
12-27-2010, 10:30 PM
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I own a LT1 Formula, and a LS1 formula, and a LS1 Trans am.
LS1 cars are much better, more reliable, better to mod, and much faster stock.
For what LS1 cars are selling for now, I couldn't see buying a LT1 car, especially if you plan to mod it at all.
My LT1 car is 3 seconds faster than my LS1 cars though, and get a lot more attention.
LS1 cars are much better, more reliable, better to mod, and much faster stock.
For what LS1 cars are selling for now, I couldn't see buying a LT1 car, especially if you plan to mod it at all.
My LT1 car is 3 seconds faster than my LS1 cars though, and get a lot more attention.
12-27-2010, 10:30 PM
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I'll likely end up selling my LT1 soon in the pursuit of a C6, but I know the year or two I am without a "muscle car" I will definitely miss it. It was my first "toy car" and despite all the headaches it gave me (opti not even being one of them - opti issues IMO are a common misconception and overplayed)
The LT1 is a great performance value but with a 13-17+ year old car, things are going to break, as they will with any old car.
The LT1 is a great performance value but with a 13-17+ year old car, things are going to break, as they will with any old car.
12-27-2010, 10:47 PM
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Sound like you're in the same boat as I was. I had to choose between continuing to throw money into my LT1 or just cut my losses and work on plans for a Vette. You actually can get C5s for less than $20k now, with low miles so I'm going that route in a few years. Until then, I got the LS1 to tide me over. The opti issue wasn't the only reason why I got rid of it - the main reason was that I found out it was in a wreck and not repaired correctly. Unfortunately a lot of these cars get butchered over the years. My ultimate plan was to take a $10000 bill to Lingenfelter and just let them have at it, but it just didn't make financial sense with the price of LS1 and Vettes dropping like they are right now.
12-27-2010, 11:10 PM
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same here man. I absolutely want a vette. I've pretty much decided on getting a c6 because it's newer, and has HIDs. Then I pretty much want an LS3 (and now w/ the Grand Sport you can get widebody) or LS7.
The only thing holding me back is not having a garage to store it in.
Plus it would be best to pay off my credit card debt and then kill my school loans completely and be out of debt completely.
So that's why I've been thinking of going H/C w/ the LT. But at the same time, I should just keep that money and save it or throw it at the debt.
Decisions, decisions.
The only thing holding me back is not having a garage to store it in.
Plus it would be best to pay off my credit card debt and then kill my school loans completely and be out of debt completely.
So that's why I've been thinking of going H/C w/ the LT. But at the same time, I should just keep that money and save it or throw it at the debt.
Decisions, decisions.
12-27-2010, 11:50 PM
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In fact, even with the stock stall it would cut a better 60' then that stang too. Ton more tq.
Don't disregard the importance of a dialed in suspension.
12-28-2010, 12:07 AM
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A buddy's Camaro went 12.90s on 17" wheels with Iron Head LT1 motor all stock with bolt ons...(Headers, Exhaust, EWP and free mods) all stock suspension except for Torque arm and Eibach springs....
Oh and the car is an M6 with a horrible 60'...
But yea they are slow buckets....If anyone wants to give a few of them away I will take em off your hands...
Oh and the car is an M6 with a horrible 60'...
But yea they are slow buckets....If anyone wants to give a few of them away I will take em off your hands...
12-28-2010, 12:54 AM
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I have ran into a few kids with Ls1's that try to tell me their stock ls1 is faster than my cam and full bolton lt1; I never tell them they are mistaken. My two friends raced a few years ago one was a 2000 ss m6 and the other a 1995 Trans am m6; the TA won the race but did have DRs and the SS did not. Ta had hollowed out cats and a flowmaster the ss had slp lm1 cat back; they were just about even in mods except for the DRs. A good running Lt1 is by far not a slow car even with today's standards.
12-28-2010, 01:06 AM
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LT1's are just like any other vehicle that is 15+ years old of course it's going to need maintenance and repairs. Not any less reliable than an LS1.
Stock for stock and mod for mod the LT1 is going to be about 50hp behind an LS1. Considering LT1 cars can be had for $3k or even less, I believe they ARE the best bang for the buck out there. 12's with a few bolt ons... 11's with a cam if the car is properly set up.
Of course there's no comparison when it comes to aftermarket availability. The LT1 was only made for 5yrs and came in like 4 different vehicles... LSx has been around over twice as long and came in a lot more vehicles. Of course LS1 is better... new design. The LT1 was designed like 20 years ago.
That being said, I like the LT1 body style a lot better, it sounds better, not far behind in performance... I love being the underdog. I am amused when I see the faces of ignorant people when they just got spanked by a slow *** piece of **** LT1. I paid more for mine than I could have gotten an LS1 for, and Ive driven plenty LS1's... I just like my 1996 WS6 better.
If you have an LS1 and you love it, great. Im glad for you, they are amazing engines
Stock for stock and mod for mod the LT1 is going to be about 50hp behind an LS1. Considering LT1 cars can be had for $3k or even less, I believe they ARE the best bang for the buck out there. 12's with a few bolt ons... 11's with a cam if the car is properly set up.
Of course there's no comparison when it comes to aftermarket availability. The LT1 was only made for 5yrs and came in like 4 different vehicles... LSx has been around over twice as long and came in a lot more vehicles. Of course LS1 is better... new design. The LT1 was designed like 20 years ago.
That being said, I like the LT1 body style a lot better, it sounds better, not far behind in performance... I love being the underdog. I am amused when I see the faces of ignorant people when they just got spanked by a slow *** piece of **** LT1. I paid more for mine than I could have gotten an LS1 for, and Ive driven plenty LS1's... I just like my 1996 WS6 better.
If you have an LS1 and you love it, great. Im glad for you, they are amazing engines
12-28-2010, 03:59 AM
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The best way to end these clown like arguments is to just delete the thread. Your logic is completely flawed in your budget outline. There is always more time, money and trouble to consider when building what you mention to achieve what you state with a LT1 platform. You make it read like it's all plug and play. It's a fact the LT1 is outdated. When the LT1 came out, 5.0 Mustangs would say everything you did verbatim. When the LS1's came out LT1 owners would say everything you said verbatim. Now both the new Coyote platform and V6 MUSTANGS have raised the bar and LT1 owners are going ape ****. Just accept the fact you have an inferior design and deal with it instead of making money excuses. Regarding building up a LT1, I would suggest you experience what you're typing about first before posting what you think it takes. Not a sermon. Just a thought.
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12-28-2010, 04:29 AM
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This turned to **** really quick, these threads always do. I like my lt1 formula, I've had a lot of fun with it, the opti took a dump on me, but its my fault, not the cars, I like the people who think that when their opti fails after 100k+, its a design flaw,nevermind they never changed the distributor cap or rotor, oh no their never supposed to fail, that's what makes ls cars sooooo much better...try not doing a tune up on an lsx car for a 100k miles and beat on it, you'll get the same results.
Granted lsx motors are and always will be better than and ltx platform, theirs just a plethora of more performance parts than the ltx. I think that if my car ever needs a motor, yeah ill probably put an lsx in it. Or just keep it an lt car, get an ls roller car and make that my fun car and keep the lt my driver, I really don't know yet.
Granted lsx motors are and always will be better than and ltx platform, theirs just a plethora of more performance parts than the ltx. I think that if my car ever needs a motor, yeah ill probably put an lsx in it. Or just keep it an lt car, get an ls roller car and make that my fun car and keep the lt my driver, I really don't know yet.
