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BTW I emailed LPP and he said that he might be getting another batch of headers in May or so. I can't wait that long, my goal is to have the car running and driving by the middle of May and I can't fab an exhaust that fast haha
I vote ebay headers
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There were some ebay headers I saw a while back that look alot like Kooks, maybe look into those as well?
![](http://www.racingpartsdepot.com/pictures/H11958A.jpg)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-L...Q5fAccessories
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-L...Q5fAccessories
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I have a hard time believing they are the same header primarily because all the fitment issues ran into with ebays most LPP owners do not have. I installed mine with the engine out but it doesn't hit anywhere, nothing needed to be clearanced (I have gen 2s). It sounds like the ebays are gen 1 LPP knockoffs because of all the fitment issues, the gen 2 LPPs were tweaked slightly for better fitment
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There were some ebay headers I saw a while back that look alot like Kooks, maybe look into those as well?
![](http://www.racingpartsdepot.com/pictures/H11958A.jpg)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-L...Q5fAccessories
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![](http://www.racingpartsdepot.com/pictures/H11958A.jpg)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-L...Q5fAccessories
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Bottom line with ebay headers is if you can live with the possibility of clearancing them go for it. The old ones made by eworldsales1 were the best ebay header. They were Pacesetter clones but modified for better plug access/fitment. Sadly he does not make them anymore.
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Dynatech's are 1-3/4 all the wasy, not stepped, are not stainless, different primary tube routing, and have two-piece collectors. I see very few similarities...
Tell me these don't have the same tube routing and weld points as these kooks...
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Tell me these don't have the same tube routing and weld points as these kooks...
![](http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/boostwhat/Forsale013.jpg)
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I have a hard time believing they are the same header primarily because all the fitment issues ran into with ebays most LPP owners do not have. I installed mine with the engine out but it doesn't hit anywhere, nothing needed to be clearanced (I have gen 2s). It sounds like the ebays are gen 1 LPP knockoffs because of all the fitment issues, the gen 2 LPPs were tweaked slightly for better fitment
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Two of my friends have lpp's from the 2nd batch. One friend has ap1ap2 headers. They all had the exact same problems. Clearance with the steering shaft, clearance on a stock k member, and passenger side frame rail. These were all on fresh builds with poly motor mounts.
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Bottom line with ebay headers is if you can live with the possibility of clearancing them go for it. The old ones made by eworldsales1 were the best ebay header. They were Pacesetter clones but modified for better plug access/fitment. Sadly he does not make them anymore.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TQ:MOTORS:1123
they look to be the improved design with the #1 primary that kicks up over #3 & #5 instead of damn-near touching them like all the other ebay headers
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I have a hard time believing they are the same header primarily because all the fitment issues ran into with ebays most LPP owners do not have. I installed mine with the engine out but it doesn't hit anywhere, nothing needed to be clearanced (I have gen 2s). It sounds like the ebays are gen 1 LPP knockoffs because of all the fitment issues, the gen 2 LPPs were tweaked slightly for better fitment