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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 01:51 PM
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Do converters fail often, or is it usually the transmission?

Yesterday I jumped on the freeway and got in it pretty hard, everything seemed to be like clock work. Cruising at 90 I punched it again, everything still working good. Close to the mixmaster I ran into traffic, cruising at 20 mph till traffic eased up,i tried to accelerate and the car bucked and lugged then felt like I was in nuetral. It gained speed but very slowly. I made the exit and came to a light. From a stop it didn't begin moving till close to 5000 rpm. The car wouldn't drive unless I put the gear selector into position 1. Got the car home into the garage and found I have no reverse. Sigh.

If the converter goes does the tranny go also?
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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check the fluid first. what color is it? any metallic flake in it?
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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I'll check it when I get off work...... Someone else told me to look for "clutch material".....what does that look like?
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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it is VERY rare that a converter fails. There is really not many moving parts inside a converter and if it has worked before then it is definately not the converter
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lncboytre_d
I'll check it when I get off work...... Someone else told me to look for "clutch material".....what does that look like?
like silver glitter in the fluid
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 05:52 PM
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With a Yank converter and a non-spectacular engine I would guess it was the tranny but at this point BOTH need to be rebuilt.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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i had a 3600 vigilantly quit at a stop light just sitting...wouldnt move with throttle ....sent it in to be fixed/inspected...they said 600bucks and i never called back
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
With a Yank converter and a non-spectacular engine I would guess it was the tranny but at this point BOTH need to be rebuilt.

My engine... WTF does that have to do with anything.?. F**k you
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Do all the other gears work properly or is just reverse out? I don't think its a converter issue. Possible issues could be lo-reverse clutches are worn out, fluid leak in the reverse apply circuit, worn boost valve or broken sunshell.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mongoose_TA
Do all the other gears work properly or is just reverse out? I don't think its a converter issue. Possible issues could be lo-reverse clutches are worn out, fluid leak in the reverse apply circuit, worn boost valve or broken sunshell.
First is the only gear working. And it spins pretty high before it engages
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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When my TC went out, the car wouldn't move unless it was turning 4000rpms in any gear. It locked up at WOT and broke when shifting from 2nd to 3rd. I knew immediately because the rpms shot up when it was supposed to be shifting lol. Mine was a TCI 3500. Didn't destroy the transmission though. Went through it and everything was good. I couldn't see flakes on the dip stick but when I dropped the pan, the fluid looked like candle apple red paint (super fine flakes from the stripped clutch material).
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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This whole situation sucks... I was going to use this 2 grand for my 12 bolt

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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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I don't think it is the converter. I would have the pressure on the pump tested before anything, then go from there.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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have both tested then find out.im guessing its the trans or both.
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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had the clutch fail on my torque converter, the car would buck sitting in gear but not in park, but when given gas the car would drive like normal...plus alot of material was around the pump when we pulled it apart, took my chance and just cleaned the trans out, and with a new converter its been all good and that was around 6 months ago
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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So I'm off work now.... Pulled the dip stick, no flakes. Fired the car up and it backed up just fine. Drove down the block 1-2 shift just fine, half way through second it feels like it slipped into nuetral, wouldn't pull again until I manually down shift. Well time for a new tranny I'm thinking. Sigh. Guess I try my luck with performabuilt.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:26 AM
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haha good luck with going that route......
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by lncboytre_d
My engine... WTF does that have to do with anything.?. F**k you
I don't think he meant to offend you or put down your engine. He just meant that a yank converter is tough and would usually take an engine built for really big power to cause damage to it.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Yes I was saying that setup wont make enough power to hurt a Yank, they are a top notch piece.

Your latest post sounds almost like a 3-4 clutch failure.

Again though you still need to have both gone through, when one fails it contaminates the other. I would be looking at FLP or Rossler.
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Performabuilt has done me very well over the past 2 years. I'm sure they'll be good for you too.
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