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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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i want to get some headers for my ws6 and i just want to know the difference between the two? Is one better then the other?
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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Longtubes will give you better sound and a little more power. They also relocate the 02 sensors just so you are aware.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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Unless you are worried about ride height or emmisions don't bother with shorties.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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shorties are completely useless..............run a good LT header and you'll be very happy........the only reason to run a shorty like WS Sick said would be because of emissions laws i think MD and CA are the only two though off the top of my head....
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 02:53 PM
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Not to discredit shorties, but they are CERTAINLY better than stock. If you're concerned about emissions there's nothing wrong with shitties (besides the awful plug access).
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Plug access isnt too terrible with my BBk shorties, a lot better than stock manifolds if you ask me.

But like the others said, Longtubes will yield more more power. If ground clearance or emissions are not a concern, Longtubes are what you want for more power.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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nothing wrong with a couple of shorties if you have a couple of turbos up front by their side
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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what about if you campare better brands to price brands , like hooker shorties to pacesetter long tubes? I was considering getting the pacesetter long tubes , do I get non egr or a emission one and if I get the non egr what else do I need to do to install it?
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 07:46 AM
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well, are you going to keep your car emission friendly?
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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It's just like ***** size.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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I dont need to worry about emissions but I would like the easiest install and more power and the pacesetters seems to be a good price
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Originally Posted by Nastyc4
It's just like ***** size.

True, true.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bizerk1
I dont need to worry about emissions but I would like the easiest install and more power and the pacesetters seems to be a good price
My Hooker LT's installed with no fitment issues at all and have a different sound over other brands. I get a lot of compliments on the sound.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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My '93 vette gained 10rwhp and 12rwtq when I replaced the manifolds with shorty headers(1 5/8). I gained another 13rwhp and 17rwtq when I went with 1 3/4 lts. The long tubes gave me power and torque throughout the rpm band, not just peak.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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All cars react different to the same mods, I can tell you when we had the shop we Dynoed cars with stock manifolds then with shorties....Results on probably 3-4 cars....2-3 Hp gain, with LT, no less than 10 RWHP..LT's are the way to go..unless as said..
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 03:27 AM
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Brave man doing them yourself if you ask me I don't have the patience unless someone who knows what they're doing helped me. The easiest install would be the kooks, but not the race versions be careful. If you're not looking to spend that money though I'm getting coated pacesetters but a buddy is helping (doing) with the install. You only problem may be when you get to the passenger side. But if you can get the car up high enough you should be good. All this is from research and on LT's. I don't know what this shorty? is...
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 07:56 AM
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get the "race" version and be done
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LT's all the way...if you can, delete the EGR, smog pumps, and get the o2 sensors deleted by program from the car and you can get the race headers.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jlincks
i want to get some headers for my ws6 and i just want to know the difference between the two? Is one better then the other?
Hell your in Salem no emissions get the Longtubes will give more power then shortys.

Delete EGR/AIR also.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 03:30 PM
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Ya that is the only good thing about the state of Indiana, we can run whatever we want.
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