5ABIVT almost Alive !! Few sneak peak pics of the Motor !! :)
07-23-2011, 12:09 AM
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Sick *** *****!!! I really like seeing a rev friendly ltx platform. Being a former import nut myself I like high rpms as well! Keep us up to date on this and good job...
07-23-2011, 02:10 PM
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O baby! thats some pure LTx p0rn right there!!! build looks sick as ****, I cant wait to see how it performs and how it sounds!! I was going to use a lion comparison myself
can you give us a ballpark on the cam duration? and how come that shop hates AFR so much that they'd turn away your biz?
can you give us a ballpark on the cam duration? and how come that shop hates AFR so much that they'd turn away your biz?
07-24-2011, 12:32 AM
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I figured hell why not build a big v-8 to spin eh? best of both worlds !O baby! thats some pure LTx p0rn right there!!! build looks sick as ****, I cant wait to see how it performs and how it sounds!! I was going to use a lion comparison myself
can you give us a ballpark on the cam duration? and how come that shop hates AFR so much that they'd turn away your biz?
can you give us a ballpark on the cam duration? and how come that shop hates AFR so much that they'd turn away your biz?
i believe cam Duration is around 260s lift just under .700.
The shoppe I dealt with .. man I could go on forever... were really just protecting their own interests of course. Whatever money I spent on porting them the first time went into his pocket. he just wanted that money. I wanted AFRs to save time and he turned me away. I am Honestly SO HAPPY i cut ties with them even before I built the motor I heard horror stories etc but I chose to trust them. ALOT went on at that shoppe that I tried to make the better of. It was a valuable learning experience. They werent an LTX experienced shoppe. They were an engine building shoppe. There was much much more negative that I experienced than positive however. In the end Im just choosing to put it behind me. I'm not one for confrontation but based on everything that happened if I was i'd probably be behind bars
They told me the engine was rebuildable and all I needed was 1 rod and new heads etc and they could slap it all together. After I chose to cut ties and Build a fresh motor down south I went back to pick up my parts and wow.. 4/7 remaining rods were bent. almost all the pistons were missing chunks off the top. I had the heads flowed by 3 different shoppes at my expense and they flowed NOTHING like he said they did. Again I was just so happy that i decided to start fresh and take the opportunity to do it right ! In the end the ONLY part I am re-using is the intake manifold and even that had to have major work done to it to get it fixed.
07-24-2011, 10:10 AM
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Hell yeah I respect anyone that has interest in cars alot of my friends had imports and while there aren't many that I would have over my cars I always liked the fact that they were just more higher tech (dohc 4v etc). I actually liked driving my friends civic SIR back in the day with 8k redline. Sounded fantastic and smooth as butter up there even though I could probably run faster than his car I figured hell why not build a big v-8 to spin eh? best of both worlds !
i believe cam Duration is around 260s lift just under .700.
The shoppe I dealt with .. man I could go on forever... were really just protecting their own interests of course. Whatever money I spent on porting them the first time went into his pocket. he just wanted that money. I wanted AFRs to save time and he turned me away. I am Honestly SO HAPPY i cut ties with them even before I built the motor I heard horror stories etc but I chose to trust them. ALOT went on at that shoppe that I tried to make the better of. It was a valuable learning experience. They werent an LTX experienced shoppe. They were an engine building shoppe. There was much much more negative that I experienced than positive however. In the end Im just choosing to put it behind me. I'm not one for confrontation but based on everything that happened if I was i'd probably be behind bars
They told me the engine was rebuildable and all I needed was 1 rod and new heads etc and they could slap it all together. After I chose to cut ties and Build a fresh motor down south I went back to pick up my parts and wow.. 4/7 remaining rods were bent. almost all the pistons were missing chunks off the top. I had the heads flowed by 3 different shoppes at my expense and they flowed NOTHING like he said they did. Again I was just so happy that i decided to start fresh and take the opportunity to do it right ! In the end the ONLY part I am re-using is the intake manifold and even that had to have major work done to it to get it fixed.
I figured hell why not build a big v-8 to spin eh? best of both worlds !i believe cam Duration is around 260s lift just under .700.
The shoppe I dealt with .. man I could go on forever... were really just protecting their own interests of course. Whatever money I spent on porting them the first time went into his pocket. he just wanted that money. I wanted AFRs to save time and he turned me away. I am Honestly SO HAPPY i cut ties with them even before I built the motor I heard horror stories etc but I chose to trust them. ALOT went on at that shoppe that I tried to make the better of. It was a valuable learning experience. They werent an LTX experienced shoppe. They were an engine building shoppe. There was much much more negative that I experienced than positive however. In the end Im just choosing to put it behind me. I'm not one for confrontation but based on everything that happened if I was i'd probably be behind bars
They told me the engine was rebuildable and all I needed was 1 rod and new heads etc and they could slap it all together. After I chose to cut ties and Build a fresh motor down south I went back to pick up my parts and wow.. 4/7 remaining rods were bent. almost all the pistons were missing chunks off the top. I had the heads flowed by 3 different shoppes at my expense and they flowed NOTHING like he said they did. Again I was just so happy that i decided to start fresh and take the opportunity to do it right ! In the end the ONLY part I am re-using is the intake manifold and even that had to have major work done to it to get it fixed.
07-26-2011, 08:05 AM
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The big $$ cap was the oil cap because its so big I guess but I was like F** it lets go billet everything down there My c4 is my pride and joy I have years into it.None other than Karl Ellwein
07-26-2011, 03:41 PM
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Wow...I didn't know the LT platform was capable of turning 8500 rpms that's insane! 
It's cool to see a LT build going the path less taken. Just curious though, about how much more does a ultra high-end build like this cost compared to the $6-8K most spend on "cookie-cutter" strokers? $15-20K or more? Not that it's any of my business; I can't help but wonder.
It's cool to see a LT build going the path less taken. Just curious though, about how much more does a ultra high-end build like this cost compared to the $6-8K most spend on "cookie-cutter" strokers? $15-20K or more? Not that it's any of my business; I can't help but wonder.
07-26-2011, 05:42 PM
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Wow...I didn't know the LT platform was capable of turning 8500 rpms that's insane! It's cool to see a LT build going the path less taken. Just curious though, about how much more does a ultra high-end build like this cost compared to the $6-8K most spend on "cookie-cutter" strokers? $15-20K or more? Not that it's any of my business; I can't help but wonder.
It's cool to see a LT build going the path less taken. Just curious though, about how much more does a ultra high-end build like this cost compared to the $6-8K most spend on "cookie-cutter" strokers? $15-20K or more? Not that it's any of my business; I can't help but wonder.**Edit** That is also with quite a few good deals and forum hookups.
07-26-2011, 05:46 PM
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forgive the ignorance, but how are the journals honda'd? what's the advance they've had over chevy? I've worked on hondas long enough to know that they usually take some of their parts a step further, mainly their bottom ends.
07-26-2011, 06:09 PM
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it weighs less and has less friction than sbc's standard 2.100"(post '67 of course, pre 67 was 2.00")
07-26-2011, 06:36 PM
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Thank you, I was wondering what the design was. I didn't think it was honda in manufacture. That efficiency definately makes sense with wanting to rev high. Has anybody gone the 302 route, wouldn't the shorter stroke allow the engine to rev higher?
07-26-2011, 06:45 PM
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I think Gizmo wanted to do a high RPM 327 at one point for fun...IMO there is no replacement for displacement - a turbo 350 will still make more power then a turbo 302, even if it doesn't spin as high.
07-28-2011, 07:47 AM
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Just an update for now.. Builder got me a quick snap of a mockup with the heads/intake and pan on. Intake is coated with a heat dissipating coating supposedly developed by Nasa. Think it was Swaintech that did it quite some time ago. Throttle body is Callaway piece. Timing cover is temporary the one being used has the wp hole welded and is being clear powder coated. I went clear so it would be silver since the entire water pump is coated black with a black hd mezziere on it. The black/silver is the theme 
This weekend I'll be bleeding the entire brake system and installing the 6 piston Baers up front In talks with a cnc shoppe to make me custom caliper brackets that will allow me to run a 14 or 15 inch 2 piece rotor up front.
Thinking about making a super vic manifold with an elbow on top but need it to fit under the stock c4. Hogan sent me a few pics I like this one but would prefer one big plenum. I thought of perhaps Hogan designing a large plenum to sit on top of a supervic with 2 large 'lung' type plenums sitting over each side all the way over to the valve covers.
This weekend I'll be bleeding the entire brake system and installing the 6 piston Baers up front
In talks with a cnc shoppe to make me custom caliper brackets that will allow me to run a 14 or 15 inch 2 piece rotor up front.Thinking about making a super vic manifold with an elbow on top but need it to fit under the stock c4. Hogan sent me a few pics I like this one but would prefer one big plenum. I thought of perhaps Hogan designing a large plenum to sit on top of a supervic with 2 large 'lung' type plenums sitting over each side all the way over to the valve covers.
