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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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what about pcmforless is that a good place and is it worth it?Has many people tried it on here if so what results did you have
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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Not the best c.s. ok if you have a cookie cutter setup. Id go with mo-hp all day over them.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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NOTE: NOT "hating" just referencing the facts as the folks from PCM4L have told me.

They still do mail order LT1 tunning; but, even though they have a location here in NC with a Dyno (shared with Tick Performance), they will not Dyno tune LT1 cars anymore.

Having said that, they've mail order tuned my car; but I'm still looking for someone willing to strap it to the rollers...

Given the fact that I have not used anyone else to compare Tune "A" to Tune "B", I can only say that every time I've rec'd a new mail order tune, the car has run quicker. Has it run at it's new absolute "peak" given my new mods? That question, sadly, I cannot answer.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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It's almost the same price to tune it yourself obd2. If you have an obd1 car, it IS CHEAPER.

That said, all mail tuners are going to be about the same. A crap shoot for your car. For every satisfied customer, there's an unsatisfied one. That and without at least scanning your own car, you have no idea how far off your tune may or may not be.

If you are comfortable with a computer and know how to read, learning to tune your car is fun, easy, rewarding, satisfying and you know it's done right and your car will be quicker in the end.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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I just made big numbers with a mail order tune. If you don't have the money for a dyno tune go for it. Bryan is pretty good at what he does. If you think its worth $500-$600 to make another 9 whp with a dyno tune its your money.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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All mine was good for was for creating detonation.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 11:30 PM
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I would never recommend them. Ever
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 11:32 PM
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Alvin took an eternity to give me a tune that made life shitty.
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I had a tune done by them. The car ran well. Recently I had some issues with the car and emailed Bryan at pcmforless to ask his opinion. I got no response which turned me off as a customer.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 03:52 AM
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That is very typical of their shitty customer service. Besides the tunes being complete garbage and not even safe.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave357LT1
Not the best c.s. ok if you have a cookie cutter setup. Id go with mo-hp all day over them.
Agreed, never got mine right with them, the more I called the more attitude I got in return as they defended their tune and blamed my setup. To be fair I really needed a dyno tune and was beyond what a mail order tune could do, Ed Wright took care of that! I didn't change anything on my car which tells me it wasn't the tune. Ed does mail order tunes as well. I've not used Mo but I hear nothing but good things about him and his customer service.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 05:52 AM
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Never had a problem.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:41 AM
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I never had a problem. I've have a bunch of tunes by them always with good results. Bryan always responds to my emails within one day. I have a PCM en-route to him just now.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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I had shift point issues and they kept sayin it was my car and not their problem. I had zero tuning experience and figured it out. SAD
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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I was not very impressed with them and their customer service is subpar.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Assuming you have a laptop:

ALDL Cable $80 (moates.net)
TunerCat $70
Datamaster Free for 1st 20 logs, then $100

Email Tune by Solomon $70 with 3 re-tunes. Customer service is great. You send him all your info, he emails a tune, you load it and datalog it and send him the datalog, he retunes if needed.

Then you can datalog it anytime for trouble codes or troubleshooting problems, change your shiftpoints (if auto), change speedo for tire or gear changes, charge your buddy to do the same, etc.

Anyone modding these cars, really needs a way to datalog.

This only works for 94-95 cars.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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My car ran way smoother and response was amazing after my tune from pcmforless.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Solomon @ lt1pcmtuning.com here, via email data logs .. No complaints! Gonna need a 383 tune soon Solomon!
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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I'm surprised to hear so many unhappy people
I've had him do 3 tunes and they were bang on
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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While my bolt-on tune seems to be fine. The customer service he has provided to people I know has been horrible. I would choose someone else.
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