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Old 08-16-2011, 09:04 PM
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Alright guys i need some help, My 93 z28 took a crap on me the other day while driving. I was just driving it normal and it died driving down the road. I checked for spark and there is zero spark coming from the plugs. Im assuming and opti but i dont want to spend the money on one if that is not needed. Any suggestions on how or what to test to see what the problem is?
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NO WAY!!!no spark on a lt1!!??!
start here
http://shbox.com/1/4th_gen_tech2.html#opti_test
fwiw, it might have lost a rotor screw and not need replaced entirely
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Same thing happened to me awhile ago, ended up being the ICM was bad. Do the free stuff first before you throw money at it.
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check the opti wiring harness
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See if there is any spark at the coil wire. If there is (and none at the plug wires), it's a cap/rotor problem.
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so everyones best guess is use what shbox says and then go from there?
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Originally Posted by 93z28lt1
so everyones best guess is use what shbox says and then go from there?
Several suggestions made. If you don't start somewhere, you won't find the trouble.
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Alright so i have went through the entire shbox link and everything checked out alright. What should my next step be? Any how to guides along with advice would help tremendously.
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Originally Posted by 93z28lt1
Alright so i have went through the entire shbox link and everything checked out alright. What should my next step be? Any how to guides along with advice would help tremendously.
See post #5.
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how do i test the coil wire?
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You could pull the coil wire and hold it near and see if spark jumps between the coil and wire.
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i decided to say screw it and just bought a cheap 20 dollar coil and it did not work.
So does anyone else have any suggestions before i just break down and buy the opti?
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Originally Posted by 93z28lt1
i decided to say screw it and just bought a cheap 20 dollar coil and it did not work.
So does anyone else have any suggestions before i just break down and buy the opti?
Do the coil wire test, first. Pull the coil wire off the opti, position the metal end near a good ground. Crank and watch for spark to jump the gap. If no spark, check the coil wire for continuity. If no spark is coming out of the coil (you said a new one did not change anything), then the trouble could be your ICM or ICM harness connection (since you tested good opti signals and power to the ICM connector already). If you have good spark out of the opti end of the coil wire (and still no spark at any plug wire), it is time to inspect the opti cap and rotor.
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Make sure youre testing the harness at the opti and not at the ICM, i made that mistake my first time haha.
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Originally Posted by whytryz28
Make sure youre testing the harness at the opti and not at the ICM, i made that mistake my first time haha.
The test suggested in post #2 (which I believe he did) IS at the ICM-not the opti.
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Try check to see if its the ICM, Number 11 on the diagram.
ICM's can go bad because its mounted on the head and the heat coming off it can damage it.


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im going to go outside later and try some of the things you guys said. Ill let u know the outcome
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Originally Posted by 93z28lt1
Alright so i have went through the entire shbox link and everything checked out alright. What should my next step be? Any how to guides along with advice would help tremendously.
If this is true you would have found the problem. I always suggest starting at the ICM. You have lots of information available there and it's very easy to get to. Did you have power and ground? Were the pulses from the PCM on terminal "B?" What was on terminal "D?"

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next test for a pulsing ground at the dark green wire(96-97) or the White/black wire (93-95) at the coil coming from the ICM. Do you have a pulsing ground?

Yes, next step
No Replace the ICM *note, I have seen a bad coil burn up an ICM. It might be a good time to replace or upgrade your coil*


So i found this didnt have pulsing ground so i am replacing the icm tonight and am going to see what happens
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put the new icm and she fired right up...thanks for all your help everyone


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