LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

It never ends!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-09-2011 | 08:58 PM
  #1  
fastredlt1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default It never ends!

So after my LT install and putting everything back together, I also put new plugs and wires on and check the fire order and connections about 3 times, everything was good. The car wouldn't start, the starter wires were touching. I fixed that, still no start. Discovered the car has a aftermarket alarm and had it professionally removed, still no start! It will crank has spark and fuel but will not turn over. Could not having the air pump on car make it from not starting, since I took it off for emissions???? Anyone have any ideas???
Old 11-09-2011 | 09:08 PM
  #2  
FAD2BLK93's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 0
From: POULSBO WA.
Default

Is the security light on? Or did the aftermarket alarm be connected to the cars security system. U need 3 things, air fuel spark.the AIR has nothing to do with it. Any codes? Check the high and low Res signal you may have a bad ignitoon module. Touching wires never turns out good with electrical systems.
Old 11-09-2011 | 09:13 PM
  #3  
Catmaigne's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 23
From: Conshohocken, PA
Default

I knew it! Luckily my touching wires didn't fry anything. Check your fuses.

If your car has air, fuel, spark, and is cranking there's no reason why it wouldn't start right up. Something is missing.
Old 11-09-2011 | 09:17 PM
  #4  
fastredlt1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default It never ends!

Now are you talking about spark plug wires touching or just wires? The security light comes on when I turn the key to the on position but them turns off. I'll have to scan it for codes.
Old 11-09-2011 | 09:20 PM
  #5  
fastredlt1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default

All fueses where good
Old 11-09-2011 | 09:27 PM
  #6  
Catmaigne's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
10 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,235
Likes: 23
From: Conshohocken, PA
Default

I was talking about the touching starter wires which would cause the car to crank every time the batt was connected.

If the security light goes away then it's not a VATS/security problem. If the car is cranking you're missing either spark or fuel. Once over the plugs and don't forget the coil. Also, can you hear the fuel pump in standby?
Old 11-09-2011 | 09:32 PM
  #7  
fastredlt1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default

The starter wires are good. I have fuel and spark, it just won't crank over. Could it be just so fludded it wont start??
Old 11-09-2011 | 09:56 PM
  #8  
4.6gt-2-ls1ta's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
From: Beaumont, TX
Default

If your meaning when you turn the key to the start position and nothing happens then you might want to remove the starter and make sure you didn't short out the starter solenoid.
Old 11-09-2011 | 10:02 PM
  #9  
fastredlt1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default

I think the starter is good, the motor cranks. It just won't turn over
Old 11-09-2011 | 10:06 PM
  #10  
4.6gt-2-ls1ta's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
From: Beaumont, TX
Default

Ok so it turns over it just won't actually start then? So next question then is where are you checking that it has spark at? The coil or at the actual plugs?
Old 11-09-2011 | 10:08 PM
  #11  
fastredlt1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default

Let me ask this just to make sure. Now on the starter there is the main cable and then there is a purple and black cable. Do the purple and black cable go to the same place or is that blck a ground that mounts to the block?? That's how I have it now
Old 11-09-2011 | 10:33 PM
  #12  
Ocala93TA's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 457
Likes: 0
From: Citrus springs Fl
Default

Here is a pic from shbox

http://shbox.com/1/starter.jpg
Old 11-09-2011 | 10:33 PM
  #13  
4.6gt-2-ls1ta's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
From: Beaumont, TX
Default

I would have to look at mine tomorrow so if no one answer before I will check it out for you and let you know. Nevermind owned by refresh.
Old 11-09-2011 | 11:11 PM
  #14  
AChotrod's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,896
Likes: 1
From: Chicago area
Default

I just had a strange issue that sounds similar. It ended up being a loose fuse. It was the fuse in the lower left corner of the fuse box under the hood. I found it so never double checked to see what the fuse does.
Old 11-10-2011 | 06:57 AM
  #15  
shbox's Avatar
TECH Veteran
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,128
Likes: 56
From: Little Rock, AR
Default

Originally Posted by fastredlt1
I think the starter is good, the motor cranks. It just won't turn over
Crank and turn over mean the same thing. You are confusing people. I think what you mean is that it cranks, but will not start. With all the cranking, it surely could be flooded. Check some plugs for excess fuel. Check fuses, too.
Old 11-10-2011 | 09:06 AM
  #16  
jaycenk's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 1
From: Holiday, FL
Default

Check the fuse for ign. injectors and engine sensors. All in the engine bay fuse box
Old 11-10-2011 | 09:24 AM
  #17  
fastredlt1's Avatar
Thread Starter
On The Tree
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Default

I'll give it all a try. Thanks for all the help
Old 11-10-2011 | 10:07 AM
  #18  
FAD2BLK93's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 0
From: POULSBO WA.
Default

I was thinking the same thing about the crank and turn over...was cofusing. How do u know u have fuel? Did u check pressue? Sounds to me like the injectors are off, try some starting fluid (ether) to see if it will fire (I know its not good) but he has to find out if its fuel related.
Old 11-10-2011 | 12:54 PM
  #19  
Zlow28's Avatar
TECH Addict

iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,081
Likes: 1
Default

something similar happened to me when i did an opti swap, and it turned out my battery had died, and my ignition coil wire from the opti was loose.
Old 11-10-2011 | 01:36 PM
  #20  
WS Sick's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,157
Likes: 0
From: Kingfisher Oklahoma
Default

There is just the battery cable and purple wire to the starter, the black wire goes to ground on the side of the block.
Does it spin freely or does it give you a chug once in a while when it is cranking over?


Quick Reply: It never ends!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:50 PM.