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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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Default cloyes timing chain install issue.
I'm installing the cloyes double roller timing chain on my car (part# 9-3145) during my cam swap. I'm running into an issue with the water pump drive gear hitting that cam gear chain. Anyone have any suggestions on what I could possibly do about this?
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Yea..... Take out the water pump drive gear......
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I would guess most people remove the w/p driveshaft, since you can't use a mechanical pump with the double roller.
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Yea..... Take out the water pump drive gear......
Yeah, I did that. Now there is a gaping hole in the block and the timing cover. Is there anything that I can put in place of the drive gear?
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You can leave the hole open.
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And go to a machine shop and get a freeze plug for the timing cover OR use a quarter and some JB weld and close the hole on the timing cover..
Take the old seal out first!
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You can leave the hole open.
The one IN the block mind you...
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So you have an electric water pump setup .. RIGHT??? If not u won't be using that gear setup ..
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So you have an electric water pump setup .. RIGHT??? If not u won't be using that gear setup ..
So its ok to leave that hole open in the block? It won't mess with my oil pressure or anything? And no, I have to buy an ewp now.
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So its ok to leave that hole open in the block? It won't mess with my oil pressure or anything? And no, I have to buy an ewp now.

Correct,It has nothing to do with oil pressure, and yes on the EWP unless you go back to your stock type timing setup
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Ok, thanks for all the help guys!
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go down to the parts store and buy a freeze plug and take it to a grinder lightly to the right size. they dint have the right size where i live. but press the new one with sillicon. mine been good for years now. they also make a alumuim one on ebay that you can weld in place on the timming cover
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