BLS 93-97 Camaro Bi-Xenon Projector Headlight Kit
12-12-2011, 11:34 AM
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Just to add on the price comments, think of it this way, an LT1 camaro has been around since the 1990s, and so far, not one single company has offered a true, bolt in, plug and play kit. Granted HID craze has not been around since the car came out, but nevertheless, the demand has always been there for a improved headlight, that does not just throw a ton of glare down the road. It is a tough project to fit a projector in such a small space and make it look like it is close to OE while also requiring that no hacking is needed.
A lot of time and effort went into making this kit, which is reflected in both the craftsmanship and of course price. It is certainly not for everyone, but for those that do spring for it, I am sure you will not be disappointed.
A lot of time and effort went into making this kit, which is reflected in both the craftsmanship and of course price. It is certainly not for everyone, but for those that do spring for it, I am sure you will not be disappointed.
12-12-2011, 11:50 AM
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We aren't cheap some of us would rather buy things we need like a rearend. I can honestly say I will buy this eventually some **** just comes first I already have HIDS.
12-12-2011, 03:53 PM
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I would assume that link, once they are ready to be sold, it will be updated.
12-12-2011, 09:37 PM
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What a dick comment....
and ide say bc most of us arent born with a silver spoon up our aces
in all honesty... if had upgraded everything else i could and just happened to have 1000 laying around... i think they would be a fantastic upgrade...
however, most of us dont have the 1k laying around, and if we did there would be other things we would want first?
not being degrading to BLS by any means... i think its a great product... i just think it all depends on what kind of a car a person is building
guys that want faster cars, cant justify spending the money on something without feeling the gains...
where the aesthetic guys will jump all over this
and ide say bc most of us arent born with a silver spoon up our aces
in all honesty... if had upgraded everything else i could and just happened to have 1000 laying around... i think they would be a fantastic upgrade...
however, most of us dont have the 1k laying around, and if we did there would be other things we would want first?
not being degrading to BLS by any means... i think its a great product... i just think it all depends on what kind of a car a person is building
guys that want faster cars, cant justify spending the money on something without feeling the gains...
where the aesthetic guys will jump all over this
12-12-2011, 10:43 PM
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a bit pricy, but I'd be in on a group purchase. They do look awesome...I think about 300 would be my max though. my car is mostly a sunday driver...but I love HID's.
12-13-2011, 10:12 AM
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I could do maybe 350I for the set. Were talking headlights here not turbos or nitrous or even a sweet hood. Do I want better light at times yes, but could I see myself spending 1000 on my Camaro lights no this is no Vette. The lights wont bring value to the car that is only worth 5k stock on a good day. And if you did not buy both sets it would really stand out and look weird.
I don't think they look that bad and I also understand how hard figuring out all the math to make them work good. But wow very pricey for most and in tough times for everyone most are selling there race cars and show cars to live at these times.
I don't think they look that bad and I also understand how hard figuring out all the math to make them work good. But wow very pricey for most and in tough times for everyone most are selling there race cars and show cars to live at these times.
12-13-2011, 10:41 AM
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The lights wont bring value to the car that is only worth 5k stock on a good day. And if you did not buy both sets it would really stand out and look weird.
I don't think they look that bad and I also understand how hard figuring out all the math to make them work good. But wow very pricey for most and in tough times for everyone most are selling there race cars and show cars to live at these times.
I don't think they look that bad and I also understand how hard figuring out all the math to make them work good. But wow very pricey for most and in tough times for everyone most are selling there race cars and show cars to live at these times.
Besides that, if the car is a driver then this makes sense. Better night vision can help limit accidents, hitting a deer, etc, that can easily cause body damage easily in excess of the cost of these headlights. You get what you pay for, and with this, it is the best.
While it may bug you and the very small fraction of people who are car guys, the vast majority of people will not even notice, especially since the lights on these cars are almost hidden from most angles. And function of headlights is slightly more important than form.
12-13-2011, 10:46 AM
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What a dick comment....
and ide say bc most of us arent born with a silver spoon up our aces
in all honesty... if had upgraded everything else i could and just happened to have 1000 laying around... i think they would be a fantastic upgrade...
however, most of us dont have the 1k laying around, and if we did there would be other things we would want first?
not being degrading to BLS by any means... i think its a great product... i just think it all depends on what kind of a car a person is building
guys that want faster cars, cant justify spending the money on something without feeling the gains...
where the aesthetic guys will jump all over this
and ide say bc most of us arent born with a silver spoon up our aces
in all honesty... if had upgraded everything else i could and just happened to have 1000 laying around... i think they would be a fantastic upgrade...
however, most of us dont have the 1k laying around, and if we did there would be other things we would want first?
not being degrading to BLS by any means... i think its a great product... i just think it all depends on what kind of a car a person is building
guys that want faster cars, cant justify spending the money on something without feeling the gains...
where the aesthetic guys will jump all over this
I've worked for everything I have. I have good friends that help me keep labor costs down. And a single set is around $600? That's an opti and a waterpump which almost all lt1 owners have shelled out for. I like driving my car, just not at night. I can imagine this product changing the previous sentence drastically. Oh and once you have a quick car, you change it up and make it look good too
12-13-2011, 10:47 AM
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We understand the price is not for everyone and I can assure you that it was not intentional. If we could have these mass produced overseas and sell thousands, the price would be significantly reduced. Can you get HIDs cheaper or install something which requires significant modifications to the car but will not perform as well?....Sure! Like anything else, people will value things differently. To some, quality lights may be an important safety and aesthetic upgrade. How many guys are guilty of adding a ton of power to their cars and not touching the brakes?
The purpose of building these lights was to do what appeared to be the impossible. If we could get the price down to reach more customers, we would however labor, material and component costs are not cheap.
Like our other kits, the price is not for everyone however what we do deliver is a quality product backed by excellent customer service.
The purpose of building these lights was to do what appeared to be the impossible. If we could get the price down to reach more customers, we would however labor, material and component costs are not cheap.
Like our other kits, the price is not for everyone however what we do deliver is a quality product backed by excellent customer service.
12-13-2011, 12:15 PM
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What a dick reply.....
I've worked for everything I have. I have good friends that help me keep labor costs down. And a single set is around $600? That's an opti and a waterpump which almost all lt1 owners have shelled out for. I like driving my car, just not at night. I can imagine this product changing the previous sentence drastically. Oh and once you have a quick car, you change it up and make it look good too
I've worked for everything I have. I have good friends that help me keep labor costs down. And a single set is around $600? That's an opti and a waterpump which almost all lt1 owners have shelled out for. I like driving my car, just not at night. I can imagine this product changing the previous sentence drastically. Oh and once you have a quick car, you change it up and make it look good too
im not saying thats your case, just saying its what ive experienced personally
on that note, I wish I had 100 dollars to spend on my car haha... sadly its the holidays
We understand the price is not for everyone and I can assure you that it was not intentional. If we could have these mass produced overseas and sell thousands, the price would be significantly reduced. Can you get HIDs cheaper or install something which requires significant modifications to the car but will not perform as well?....Sure! Like anything else, people will value things differently. To some, quality lights may be an important safety and aesthetic upgrade. How many guys are guilty of adding a ton of power to their cars and not touching the brakes?
The purpose of building these lights was to do what appeared to be the impossible. If we could get the price down to reach more customers, we would however labor, material and component costs are not cheap.
Like our other kits, the price is not for everyone however what we do deliver is a quality product backed by excellent customer service.
The purpose of building these lights was to do what appeared to be the impossible. If we could get the price down to reach more customers, we would however labor, material and component costs are not cheap.
Like our other kits, the price is not for everyone however what we do deliver is a quality product backed by excellent customer service.
12-13-2011, 12:28 PM
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The LEDs will be coming but I see that taking quite a while before we see the OEM stuff trickle to the aftermarket. It will open up a lot of opportunities but the big issue will be quality and specifically proper thermal management. LEDs can be killed pretty quickly if the thermal loads are not kept in check. This is why you see all those crazy looking aluminum heat sinks on higher wattage LED products. It will def allow for some interesting designs when the time is right.
12-13-2011, 12:37 PM
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The LEDs will be coming but I see that taking quite a while before we see the OEM stuff trickle to the aftermarket. It will open up a lot of opportunities but the big issue will be quality and specifically proper thermal management. LEDs can be killed pretty quickly if the thermal loads are not kept in check. This is why you see all those crazy looking aluminum heat sinks on higher wattage LED products. It will def allow for some interesting designs when the time is right.
i know the motorcycle crowd has started seeing some site sponsors doing R&D, and I beleive have come out with a set of led headlights for the 600rr...
so i do agree its coming... just a matter of when and when it will be affordable for us common folk
12-13-2011, 11:53 PM
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I don't mind spending a weeks pay on something that will make the car faster, but I'd rather stick with stock headlights for now at that price since I'm trying to keep a more factory look with the car. Even though the factory lights suck at lighting up the road. I'd love to have these someday.
If you can get them down to $550 for a pair I will order them right now.
If you can get them down to $550 for a pair I will order them right now.