LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Spraying a high mileage LT1

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-20-2011, 09:24 PM
  #1  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
coolmanvette75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Old Bridge, NJ/Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Spraying a high mileage LT1

Hey guys, I'm planning on spraying my 141k mile bolt on LT1 (runs 12.93 on motor) this coming spring. Most likely gonna be a 100-150 shot through a single nozzle wet kit. Gonna have all of the saftey things done (timing retard, wot switch, window switch, heater, purge, etc.). Anybody with experience, how has your stock LT1 held up to the nitrous abbuse? Also any suggestions or comments are appreciated.
Old 12-20-2011, 09:30 PM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
alexcoreas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,062
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Subscribed
Old 12-21-2011, 12:00 AM
  #3  
On The Tree
iTrader: (3)
 
ClovisAutoMotion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Clovis, CA
Posts: 123
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Its really a craps shoot, my advice would be if you do spray, do so under the premise that the motor is gonna grenade sooner than later and be happy if it lasts.

That being said, I sprayed 100hp on my stock long block with about 90k till 120k when I did heads and cam and never had a problem, but I only put maybe 20 bottles through it. I then ring and bearinged the same motor, sprayed 150 with heads/cam and it beat the intake valve seat out and broke a piston after only 5 or 6 bottles. It had about 140k when it popped.
Old 12-21-2011, 04:43 AM
  #4  
On The Tree
 
4K+Converter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I'm echoing what Clovis just said. The real answer is "a zero horsepower shot." It'll pop, you just don't know when. The better question is "do you have the money for a rebuild if it does?"
Old 12-21-2011, 06:49 AM
  #5  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
bowtienut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Bright, IN
Posts: 1,685
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

If you never go lean, you keep the timing conservative, and you bring the shot in with the window switch at or above 2500 with the 100 shot or 3000 with the 150, it's easier on your motor than a heads/cam package spinning in the mid six's.
Your fuel system is your highest priority!!!!
Start with baby shots (50) and inch your way up (25 at a time), looking at plugs (a front and a rear cylinder) every time you change something.
If you have any datalogging capability, watch the O2 sensors. If stock sensors fall below mid 800's, that's a warning you're not giving it enough fuel. Mine always showed high 800's to 900 on the spray. I know they're not accurate at those AFR's, but better than just closing your eyes to it.
Old 12-21-2011, 07:23 AM
  #6  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (31)
 
96lt1m6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: LA$ VEGA$
Posts: 3,782
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Be sure your fuel pump is in proper order(maintain pressure) injectors are all good,I still use tr6 plugs gapped at .032",NX 150 shot single nozzle,never burned a plug or hurt the Lt1! She has 135k on the clock......best N2O pass to date 11.33@118 thanks NX
Old 12-21-2011, 02:13 PM
  #7  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
coolmanvette75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Old Bridge, NJ/Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by 96lt1m6
Be sure your fuel pump is in proper order(maintain pressure) injectors are all good,I still use tr6 plugs gapped at .032",NX 150 shot single nozzle,never burned a plug or hurt the Lt1! She has 135k on the clock......best N2O pass to date 11.33@118 thanks NX
Do you have a break down of the slip? Thats a great time! Are you locking out 1st gear? Most 6spd guys I have talked to have said locking out 1st gear is a smart move.
Old 12-21-2011, 03:23 PM
  #8  
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Ballinonabudget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

IA buddy of mine sprayed his stock/bolt on Impala SS w/ the cast iron heads for about 3 years before it grenaded. He did a 50 shot on the street and went up to 100 when he wanted to really race. His car was daily driven all season with about 110k miles when he started spraying it.

As long as you upgrade the fuel pump, get the proper plugs and injectors, the right tune, and have all the safety mods to go along with it you should be okay for occasional spray. Just don't be surprised if it does blow up on you, you're kind of walking the razors edge every time you do it.
Old 12-21-2011, 03:40 PM
  #9  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (31)
 
96lt1m6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: LA$ VEGA$
Posts: 3,782
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

I launch as hard as possible on the motor then hit button and it stays on with a death grip!!!!!! Yes that means through the shifts and all, drive it like you stole it!!!! I also do not recommended spraying through the gears unless you have some stick-shift seat time.......
60'———1.6
330'——-4.9
1/8———7.476
MPH—--—95.97
1000'———9.47
1/4————11.39
E.T————117.96
Old 12-21-2011, 03:46 PM
  #10  
Banned
iTrader: (12)
 
Ballinonabudget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 223
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Great times dude... is your car just bolt on and spray? If so that's great man...
Old 12-21-2011, 09:17 PM
  #11  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (31)
 
96lt1m6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: LA$ VEGA$
Posts: 3,782
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Yes I have all the bolt-ons minus the EWP, gear banging attitude!!!
LT headers
2.5"X-pipe w/10series flowmasters
1.6 rockers,7/16 upgrade
SLP lid
NX 150shot,single shark nozzle
Madtuner tune
4.10s stock 10-bolt (exploded) 8.8 w/ 3.73s on the bench.
Beginning new mods after the new year as soon as I decide $for$ what will yield the most power
Old 12-21-2011, 09:30 PM
  #12  
Banned
iTrader: (5)
 
mred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wylie,Tx 75098
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

chevy highperformance magizine did an article on a high mileage motor that took up to a 275 shot before it blew up and i believe that was becasue of a head gasket,they put a timimg chain and that was it i believe andthey did increments with the testing and they said that the motor being so well used that the more n2o they ran threw it the better it ran on there engine dyno.
probably because it was helping to seal up the motor up better as it got hotter.
well if you read the article you will see there is more truch then what my post says.
SORRY


ok i found the article.
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te..._up/index.html

Last edited by mred; 12-21-2011 at 09:40 PM.
Old 12-22-2011, 01:54 PM
  #13  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
coolmanvette75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Old Bridge, NJ/Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by mred
chevy highperformance magizine did an article on a high mileage motor that took up to a 275 shot before it blew up and i believe that was becasue of a head gasket,they put a timimg chain and that was it i believe andthey did increments with the testing and they said that the motor being so well used that the more n2o they ran threw it the better it ran on there engine dyno.
probably because it was helping to seal up the motor up better as it got hotter.
well if you read the article you will see there is more truch then what my post says.
SORRY


ok i found the article.
http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/te..._up/index.html
Wow thats pretty crazy
Old 12-22-2011, 03:23 PM
  #14  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (13)
 
69gto96z's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rockwall, TX
Posts: 1,246
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts

Default

I sprayed over 15 bottles through a 130k mile LT1 with no issues. Sprayed a 150 with all the safety features, a Walbro 255 and TR6's. Never had any issues
Old 12-22-2011, 03:26 PM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (8)
 
96TransAmboosted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pinellas Park Florida
Posts: 1,550
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I started spraying my stock 131k engine for years on a 150-175 shot at about 187k I upped the shot to 200the until it blew at 196k.
Old 12-23-2011, 09:43 AM
  #16  
On The Tree
 
turtle93's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: jacksonville ar
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

168,000 sprayed 100 shot on mine till the zex box died back to a really slow car
Old 12-23-2011, 03:44 PM
  #17  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
coolmanvette75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Old Bridge, NJ/Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 1,216
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Thanks for your input guys. I have been looking around the the harris speed works wet kit has really caught my eye. for $375 with no bottle (already have a 10lb NOS bottle) it seems to be a great deal...

http://www.harrisspeedworks.com/prod...cat=137&page=1
Old 12-23-2011, 04:02 PM
  #18  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
gregrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: 6,000+ feet
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Dude, do yourself a favor and go with nitrous outlet. My experience with HSW is cheap products and terrible service .

If you're on a budget get a brand x shark nozzle kit.

And why would you buy a kit without a bottle? Makes no sense.
Old 12-23-2011, 04:04 PM
  #19  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
gregrob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: 6,000+ feet
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

I see where you said you have bottle now. Just check the date on it. If its out if certification they won't let you run it at the track unless they're being lazy and not checking.
Old 12-23-2011, 04:05 PM
  #20  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
 
TwoFast4Lv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: LT1 land...the "409" of the 90s!
Posts: 10,023
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts

Default

Spray that bitch! Hit it with a 100 shot for a few bottles then go to a 125!


Quick Reply: Spraying a high mileage LT1



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 AM.