LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

just got new stuff

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 2, 2012 | 11:13 PM
  #1  
keithcampbell's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: roseville
Default just got new stuff

so i just got in the mail pacesetters, cc306, 1.5rr, 25% underdrive, slp air foil, egr and other block offs, 90 elbow to run with the stock SS ram air, i got the push rods and whatever else u need for the new top end and i think injectors, i also got the a/c del plate but i jsut heard u cant have a heater without the a/c i just need the defroster but is this true. a shop will be doing all the work and then doing a dyno tune and some head work on stock heads. i just need to know is there something else i should be doing to this LT1 other then an LS1 swap. im just looking for good rhp to have fun with... also cant post on stuff to buy but im looking for the single cme tip and something that is louder then the stock slp with no cats... this is all on a 97ss im new to all this i also just got the pro 5.0 shifter just any help or nething to stay away from or a must have will help thanks
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 12:22 AM
  #2  
guppymech's Avatar
12 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 3
From: Chicagoland
Default

Don't take this the wrong way but you should stop buying stuff and do some research. Send the underdrive pulley, air foil and bigger? injectors back. Pushrods? How could you know what length you'll need. Did you read the description of the 306 cam? and with 1.5rr...on purpose? I don't mean to be a jerk but use the search function. There is a wealth of information here and some VERY knowledgeable people that I'm sure will be happy to help you.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 12:44 AM
  #3  
3DFORMULA's Avatar
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
Default

Its to late to tell ya to slow down. Stop buying NOW. Air foils, under drive pulleys, and 1.5 rockers were just wasted money. You could have had people give them to ya since they aren't worth having. Push rods before measuring, no no. The antique cc306, stay off youtube. Ask ?'s here
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 12:51 AM
  #4  
gregrob's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 4
From: 6,000+ feet
Default

An under drive pulley does make more power whether you guys want to believe it or not.

The airfoil, meh.

If the heads havent been off you can use stock length pushrods.

Bigger injectors probably wont be needed.

What stall and / or rear gear are you going to run with that cam?

I would ditch the 1.5s for 1.7s..... those 306 lobes are lazy.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 06:06 AM
  #5  
bowtienut's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,685
Likes: 5
From: Bright, IN
Default

Originally Posted by gregrob
...I would ditch the 1.5s for 1.7s..... those 306 lobes are lazy.
Have you found any 1.7 SA rockers? I looked a few years ago when I was running the stock cam and didn't find any.
I would also keep the U/D pulley. Maybe a few ponies, but more importantly keep the accessory speeds to a sane level when you're trying to wring horsepower out of that cam.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 07:22 AM
  #6  
joelster's Avatar
10 Second Club
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,630
Likes: 28
Default

You can ditch the a/c and still have somewhat of a defrost. I left my blower motor in the dash but eliminated the heater core. The motor just blows recirculated air onto the windshield. Obviously it doesn't work as good as heated air from the heater core but it does a surprisingly good job on a 45-50 degree night when it fogs up a bit.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:00 AM
  #7  
keithcampbell's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: roseville
Default

sorry i didnt say but the shop i had get the cam got all the stuff i needed for the top end... and i did get the 1.5rr used from a guy that went to something else maybe that would have told me not to get them. and in the car is the t56 so i dont know if that helps i havnt got the injecters and everything else in the car is stock so rear gears are stock but prob need to be redone
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:00 AM
  #8  
keithcampbell's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: roseville
Default

and im not talking what anyone says in a badway i would rather hear it and know way then thats what u need to say thanks tho
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

 Brett Foote
story-1

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-8

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-9

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 08:34 AM
  #9  
SS RRR's Avatar
Village Troll
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 11,111
Likes: 598
From: Jackstandican
Default

You will most likely need to go with a different gear depending on your head work. Just depends on what you are using the car for and where the power peak is.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 10:05 AM
  #10  
keithcampbell's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: roseville
Default

its a dd i drive about 40 miles to school one way and the heads are stock, and for a dd i was told i can go with some 411s and it wont be that bad but then i hear dont do that
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 10:17 AM
  #11  
bowtienut's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,685
Likes: 5
From: Bright, IN
Default

If swapping gears, 4.10's are the minimum you should use with the T56. No hit whatsoever to your mpg's.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 10:20 AM
  #12  
keithcampbell's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
From: roseville
Default

so i should go for the 4.10s then...
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 10:52 AM
  #13  
guppymech's Avatar
12 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 3
From: Chicagoland
Default

Headers and 4.10 gears with a tune work good for a guy on a budget. If your engine needs internal work for repair then it makes sense to upgrade the cam and related stuff at the same time. Here's a link to a good cam and valvetrain guide:
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/lt1-|-lt...n-guide**.html
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 04:23 PM
  #14  
gregrob's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 4
From: 6,000+ feet
Default

Keeping heat and deleting A/C is easy. I don't know what everyone is smoking. There are several write ups on it.
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 04:43 PM
  #15  
Sikfricks's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Default

whats wrong with the cc306 thats what i have and it works well or are you saying its no good for a stock engine
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 04:52 PM
  #16  
96lt1m6's Avatar
TECH Junkie
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,782
Likes: 3
From: LA$ VEGA$
Default

i have searched for SA 1.7 roller rockers to no avail, only NSA show up...


OP what they are getting at is that cam profile is antiquated! yes you see it working for you but what do you have to compare to? that cam will run 11s but so will a stock cam, it's all about how it helps you get to the 11s would be the key argument.......
Reply
Old Mar 3, 2012 | 11:14 PM
  #17  
gregrob's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 4
From: 6,000+ feet
Default

Originally Posted by bowtienut
Have you found any 1.7 SA rockers? I looked a few years ago when I was running the stock cam and didn't find any.
I would also keep the U/D pulley. Maybe a few ponies, but more importantly keep the accessory speeds to a sane level when you're trying to wring horsepower out of that cam.

I wouldnt use SA rockers in the first place, personally.

That cam is going to be a pile of **** on 1.5s
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 12:56 AM
  #18  
jaycenk's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 1
From: Holiday, FL
Default

Does someone have the night off??? No one took aim at the 90* elbow for the SS intake yet lol.
Under drives release a tad of power but if it's a DD with A/C and you run any kind of sound system other then stock I'll take the stock acc drive ratio and 140 amp alt any day. Most other cars and trucks would kill for that kind of idle out put lol. but it does cost power....actual measurable power
Foil....not worth it's weight at a scrap yard. May idle a tad better but that's about the only advantage. releases a whole 1/4hp at 5800???? Never seen an actual pull where they made measurable power other then a variance.
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 06:37 AM
  #19  
bowtienut's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 1,685
Likes: 5
From: Bright, IN
Default

With the higher idle speed he'll be running with that cam, I see no downside to the underdrive pulley.

gregrob, I agree, I wouldn't run SA's at the rpms that cam wants either. I misunderstood since you didn't mention to him what he needs to do for a non-SA setup. and I doubt he picked up that either.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:07 AM.

story-0
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'

Don't get dad new socks or a grill brush this year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 14:55:56


VIEW MORE
story-1
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-2
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-6
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-9
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE