LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

230/236 on a 110lsa DYNO!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:23 PM
  #21  
96capricemgr's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 11,975
Likes: 15
Default

That is also true. The article has the dynojet graph that plainly says the correction being used is SAE so that is not a valid excuse for the discrepancy..
Thing is, the ONLY reason anyone would post STD numbers is to inflate them.

Take the car to the track and see if it works.
Reply
Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:50 PM
  #22  
trilkb's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,106
Likes: 80
Default

So the 1.7's are putting you 230/236 .578/.589 right?

either way a 35+hp gain from a cam swap is still pretty legit.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 01:16 AM
  #23  
NewOrleansLT1's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,707
Likes: 13
From: New Orleans, LA
Default

Originally Posted by trilkb
So the 1.7's are putting you 230/236 .578/.589 right?

either way a 35+hp gain from a cam swap is still pretty legit.
Yup and thanks...
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 02:57 AM
  #24  
speed_demon24's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,609
Likes: 2
From: Ocala, FL
Default

Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Article in the latest GMHTP and the dynojet 224x showed 394rwhp where the Mustang was 369rwhp and the dyno dynamics was 366rwhp. That is a 6-7% higher than the other two brands.
Quite a bit of mustang dynos actually read higher than dynojets since its so easy to manipulate the #'s. Dynojets are fairly consistent since its just spinning up a drum.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:02 AM
  #25  
speed_demon24's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,609
Likes: 2
From: Ocala, FL
Default

Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
its NA relax buddy.........
Because NA motors are immune to damage from detonation or melting pistons from running lean. It's sad that a sponsor who does tuning would imply that.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 08:50 AM
  #26  
Ryne @ CMS's Avatar
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,774
Likes: 2
From: murrieta
Default

Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Because NA motors are immune to damage from detonation or melting pistons from running lean. It's sad that a sponsor who does tuning would imply that.
no they are not, but they also do not instantly blow-up either.... you're making it out that its a surprise it didnt blow up, and adding nothing to thread....
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 09:08 AM
  #27  
1997b4c's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Startex, SC
Default

Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
no they are not, but they also do not instantly blow-up either.... you're making it out that its a surprise it didnt blow up, and adding nothing to thread....
agreed the car wont self destruct at that point n/a unless you have wy to much timing in it to begin with.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 09:22 AM
  #28  
RealQuick's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,970
Likes: 15
From: MA
Default

I have never heard of or seen a N/A motor blow up from running 15:1 A/F

I have seen plenty of cars dyno with a lean A/F similar to that and none had issues (except for not making max power). Now if he was running 16:1 or more, I would certainly lift off the go pedal.

Just my experience.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Apr 10, 2012 | 06:27 PM
  #29  
trilkb's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,106
Likes: 80
Default

Maybe I missed it in earlier posts..

Is the a/f 15.1 due to the old tune for the hot cam? Or did you get a mail order or something? Just kinda wierd to see a mail order tune end up that way is all im saying lol.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2012 | 01:05 PM
  #30  
speed_demon24's Avatar
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 4,609
Likes: 2
From: Ocala, FL
Default

Originally Posted by Ryne @ CMS
no they are not, but they also do not instantly blow-up either.... you're making it out that its a surprise it didnt blow up, and adding nothing to thread....
There's no reason to continue the pull once you see the 15:1 a/f. Any competent tuner would abort the run and add fuel before doing a full pull. In fact that's exactly what my tuner did when he was tuning my dad's LS1. A/F was 15:1 and it ended up being a 500 rpm dyno pull since he got out of it right away.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2012 | 11:15 PM
  #31  
Wicked94Z's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,725
Likes: 1
From: Spokane, Wa
Default

Sorry, I'm usually never a sponsor nuthugger. But I'd put Ryne up at the top of the stack as far as shops/tuners go. On a side note, I wasn't aware speed_demon24 makes a living tuning?
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2012 | 10:15 AM
  #32  
sweetbmxrider's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,768
Likes: 3
From: jersey shore
Default

Seems legit
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2012 | 11:06 PM
  #33  
NewOrleansLT1's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,707
Likes: 13
From: New Orleans, LA
Default

Originally Posted by trilkb
Maybe I missed it in earlier posts..

Is the a/f 15.1 due to the old tune for the hot cam? Or did you get a mail order or something? Just kinda wierd to see a mail order tune end up that way is all im saying lol.
The Hot Cam tune was 12.5-12.7ish. When I added the new cam It went to 15.1... Now its set at 13.1ish.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2012 | 11:13 PM
  #34  
NewOrleansLT1's Avatar
Thread Starter
11 Second Club
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,707
Likes: 13
From: New Orleans, LA
Default

Originally Posted by speed_demon24
There's no reason to continue the pull once you see the 15:1 a/f. Any competent tuner would abort the run and add fuel before doing a full pull. In fact that's exactly what my tuner did when he was tuning my dad's LS1. A/F was 15:1 and it ended up being a 500 rpm dyno pull since he got out of it right away.
I told him to dyno "as is". I'm pretty sure Geoff at EPS would have aborted the run if it was unsafe. He's been tuning F-bodys since they had chips. I guess other tuners would abort to be safe because they know no better.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 07:10 AM
  #35  
ScreaminRedZ's Avatar
registered user
20 Year Member
Photogenic
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,941
Likes: 0
Default

Great numbers, that's an awesome gain!

Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Quite a bit of mustang dynos actually read higher than dynojets since its so easy to manipulate the #'s. Dynojets are fairly consistent since its just spinning up a drum.
+1, but I don't think a lot of people realize it happens sometimes. Gotta find a trustworthy shop.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:30 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE