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Changing my intake - which one is best?

Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:06 PM
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I have a 350 LT1 forged bottom end with AFR heads competition package (2.05/1.625) and CC306 cammed car. I tried running a mono blade and it's too finicky for me to tune. I've been out of the game for 10 years - what is the cool intake to put on this car now? Should I just get another stock one with 52 or 58mm TB? Or is there anything better for my combo?

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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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An LT4 if you can find one.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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For a 350 held to the pcm's rpm limits I would just do a ported stock intake with 58mm TB.

Then again maybe a little elbow grease can help you get the monoblade working better. You have read the monblade IAC thread right?

I know with the 58mm TB just addressing the IAC bypass and getting the blades closed helped idle noticeably. Now it is a lot harder to get that all to work right with the monoblade but is possible.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Exeodus
An LT4 if you can find one.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...1/DCP_1456.jpg

Internally the LT4 is the same as the late small trapezoidal port LT1 intakes. If he got an LT1 intake to match to the heads there is no reason to consider an LT4 intake
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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What intake do the heads require? all the 195cc up AFRs say they have the LT4 intake ports. If so see if you can find a used one, if not you can have some material welded on the LT1 intake and have it matched to the gasket.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WS Sick
What intake do the heads require? all the 195cc up AFRs say they have the LT4 intake ports. If so see if you can find a used one, if not you can have some material welded on the LT1 intake and have it matched to the gasket.
I have 190 55cc heads
AFR website says not to port match the intake to their heads
So it looks like a stock LT1 intake is what I need to bolt on.

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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
For a 350 held to the pcm's rpm limits I would just do a ported stock intake with 58mm TB.

Then again maybe a little elbow grease can help you get the monoblade working better. You have read the monblade IAC thread right?

I know with the 58mm TB just addressing the IAC bypass and getting the blades closed helped idle noticeably. Now it is a lot harder to get that all to work right with the monoblade but is possible.
Yes read that thread. My monoblade is custom made and does not have the bottoms stuff to even bold on the IAC/Water thing with the controlled valve. I would be inventing everything and buying an IAC valve and having to machine something too get it to work...

I'd rather just put on a stock intake with TB that works. I ran 115mph with stock intake and TB before the monoblade, after monoblade I am only runnin 110 mph so I am happy going back.

Anyone with a bigger track setup want my monoblade and intake? It just didn't work for me.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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I have no issues with my AS&M monoblade. Tuning was no problem, either...
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Like i said jason i wouldnt worry too much about it right yet once we get everything on your car working as it should then its time to start looking. Im with everyone else a stock port matched intake is all you need a 58mm tb. If we can get the monoblade to work later then keep it but gotta keep you eye on the prize ahead!
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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I got a stock intake off my 94 I'll sell ya on da cheaps. PM me if you want it...
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 05:47 PM
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When I ordered my 58mm TPIS throttle body & gave him all my specs Because I wanted a Mono for my 396 build He told me a mono would make throttle response **** unless your 420 cu in or bigger Even with nitrous He told me if I was forced induction then he would sell me a mono LoL Hell their 58mm flows almost 1100cfm Thats plenty enough for 600hp on the motor
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by warriorcustoms
When I ordered my 58mm TPIS throttle body & gave him all my specs Because I wanted a Mono for my 396 build He told me a mono would make throttle response **** unless your 420 cu in or bigger Even with nitrous He told me if I was forced induction then he would sell me a mono LoL Hell their 58mm flows almost 1100cfm Thats plenty enough for 600hp on the motor
Ya I'm living the **** throttle response right now

Got a line on a couple intakes and will swap out.

I ran 115 mph on the stock intake and stock 48mm TB so I dont even know if I need a 52mm or 58mm Maybe a stock 48 is just fine!
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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if you want to work a swap. we run a 58mm bbk. our combo would not have any trouble with a mono blade.
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Properly tuned a monoblade has good throttle response on a 350. The only "negative" would be how sensitive the throttle becomes. They can be a little like an on/off switch at low speeds. Bogging or anything like that is a tuning problem not a monoblade problem.
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 03:04 AM
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You guys must not be able to read. He said this is a home made monoblade.
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
You guys must not be able to read. He said this is a home made monoblade.
Originally Posted by warriorcustoms
When I ordered my 58mm TPIS throttle body & gave him all my specs Because I wanted a Mono for my 396 build He told me a mono would make throttle response **** unless your 420 cu in or bigger Even with nitrous He told me if I was forced induction then he would sell me a mono LoL Hell their 58mm flows almost 1100cfm Thats plenty enough for 600hp on the motor
Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
Properly tuned a monoblade has good throttle response on a 350. The only "negative" would be how sensitive the throttle becomes. They can be a little like an on/off switch at low speeds. Bogging or anything like that is a tuning problem not a monoblade problem.
That is specifically what I was referring too, no difficulties reading, matter of fact I read ALL the posts.
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
You guys must not be able to read. He said this is a home made monoblade.
That is correct.

I was in sleeper look mode when I had it made for me.

http://www.cdntechnologies.com/camar...ono-blade.html

I don't race anymore so putting a stock intake on and driving around like the old man I now am is what i want to do

I don't expect to sell it but if anyone wants to trade or pay for shipping they can have it when I put another one on. Warning: you may never get it to work right. But, you may, I just have no patience for it and don't have a big monster motor to feed. Like I said I ran 115mph wiht the stock TB I'm ok with that

EDIT: It's fine WOT it just sucked driving around town.
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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A stock lt1 intake with a port job is just as good as lt4 intake. The 92-93 lt1 intake are more liked due to the fuel cross overs are at the back of the intake causing a better flow. FYI if you deside to run a 92-93 intake on a 94-97 lt1. Make sure you put 24 pound injectors in the fuel rails. They are 22 pounds stock and will save you alot of time when you cant figure out why you car cuts out at higher RMPs. Yeah I repaced 3 Opti sparks and 1 msd.
I have a 93 Intake with fuel rails and 24 pound injectors for sell if anyone in interested.
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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Konman, I am pretty sure you are mistaken. People favor the 94-97 intakes and fuel rail because of that second cross over on the front end of the fuel rail. GM added it for a reason, which I'm sure is floating around somewhere on the internet.
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Old Apr 16, 2012 | 05:56 PM
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The early intake with the lack of crossover has some slight advantages, the later intakes have some slight advantages fuel flow wise through the rail.

A ported LT1 intake is BETTER than a stock LT4 intake because as GIZMO provided us pics of years ago the LT4 intake is internally the same as the late LT1 intakes.
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k5...1/DCP_1456.jpg
The LT4 just had more material above the port to seal to the taller ports in the LT4 heads, but the intake itself is no better it actually has the smallest LT1 intake ports as the early/middle years were rectangular
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