Well, intake gasket time Questions
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I just did mine this weekend. Easy if you are patient. I have all the pics at the end of page two here https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...-one-best.html
It will take all day or two days depending how good you are. I'm slow.
It's not that bad. Once everything is out clean the head and front and rear block areas. Then clean them again. And again. Then use scotch right pads or sand paper on the block to really make sure they are clean. And brake cleaner on a rag, wipe it all down a few times.
I put a cloth on the heads and practiced 5-6 times placing the intake on until I got it just right. I kept hitting the oil pressure sender at the back of the block until I practiced enough so, I ended up placing the rear of the intake on it on purpose, so it wouldn't touch the rear bead of silicone, until I lined up the front bolt holes which let the rear carefully slide off the oil pressure sender controllably down. Once you practice a few times this will make sense.
Then I put the beads of rtv on the front and rear, and also put just a tiny dab of rtv on the heads in the middle to stick the gaskets on. Do not rtv close to the intake ports, rtv doesn't like gas. Then I waited 10 mins and then plopped it on. First torqu was just finger tight with the socket, then snug just with hand right at the socket handle, and hour later snugged hand tight. The next day I torqued to 20 then tried 35 and I think 35 is too much. I may have stripped one front bolt I stopped right away. I would in the future not use a torque wrench on intake bolts they are too fragile IMHO.
See my picks at the end here: https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...-one-best.html
Good luck! Ask any questions I will try to answer.
It will take all day or two days depending how good you are. I'm slow.
It's not that bad. Once everything is out clean the head and front and rear block areas. Then clean them again. And again. Then use scotch right pads or sand paper on the block to really make sure they are clean. And brake cleaner on a rag, wipe it all down a few times.
I put a cloth on the heads and practiced 5-6 times placing the intake on until I got it just right. I kept hitting the oil pressure sender at the back of the block until I practiced enough so, I ended up placing the rear of the intake on it on purpose, so it wouldn't touch the rear bead of silicone, until I lined up the front bolt holes which let the rear carefully slide off the oil pressure sender controllably down. Once you practice a few times this will make sense.
Then I put the beads of rtv on the front and rear, and also put just a tiny dab of rtv on the heads in the middle to stick the gaskets on. Do not rtv close to the intake ports, rtv doesn't like gas. Then I waited 10 mins and then plopped it on. First torqu was just finger tight with the socket, then snug just with hand right at the socket handle, and hour later snugged hand tight. The next day I torqued to 20 then tried 35 and I think 35 is too much. I may have stripped one front bolt I stopped right away. I would in the future not use a torque wrench on intake bolts they are too fragile IMHO.
See my picks at the end here: https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...-one-best.html
Good luck! Ask any questions I will try to answer.
#22
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Just take your time doing it. Its not hard, but make sure you label all of the connections/ports as it can be confusing the first time putting it all back together. Relieve the pressure in the fuel system before you start. Disconnecting the fuel lines is also tricky at first, hopefully you have a good disconnect tool.
There's no need to dimple or do anything fancy with the surfaces, just use a good razor blade and brake cleaner/alcohol to get everything clean. Definitely use a torque wrench and make two passes on the bolts with a final torque of 35ft/lb. Don't forget to recheck them after a few heat cycles, they will back out and will need to be rechecked for proper torque.
There's no need to dimple or do anything fancy with the surfaces, just use a good razor blade and brake cleaner/alcohol to get everything clean. Definitely use a torque wrench and make two passes on the bolts with a final torque of 35ft/lb. Don't forget to recheck them after a few heat cycles, they will back out and will need to be rechecked for proper torque.
#23
just did mine yesterday and will start the car today after letting RTV sit overnight
TQ to 71 in lb first pass and then 35 ft lbs 2nd pass. there is a TQ order shown in FSM or Haynes service book. Basically starting on inside and working x pattern towards ends
took my time but did it in a afternoon. most of the time is spent cleaning everything. Spent time cleaning manifold, TB and IAC valve passage.
use FelPro "pinto" aka blue seal gaskets
after scraping off old RTV use steel wool on all mating surfaces then wipe multiple times with acetone. good idea to put rag or paper towels in open motor so debris does not fall in while cleaning. chase out bolt holes in heads, clean manifold bolts and use thread sealer on them.
TQ to 71 in lb first pass and then 35 ft lbs 2nd pass. there is a TQ order shown in FSM or Haynes service book. Basically starting on inside and working x pattern towards ends
took my time but did it in a afternoon. most of the time is spent cleaning everything. Spent time cleaning manifold, TB and IAC valve passage.
use FelPro "pinto" aka blue seal gaskets
after scraping off old RTV use steel wool on all mating surfaces then wipe multiple times with acetone. good idea to put rag or paper towels in open motor so debris does not fall in while cleaning. chase out bolt holes in heads, clean manifold bolts and use thread sealer on them.
#24
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Only thing you need to keep in order are the intake bolts/studs. There is one stud that is significantly longer than the other studs. That is the one for the alternator. The others are for the coolant return pipe that runs along the pass. side of the intake manifold and the drivers side there is another for the EGR solenoid. Can't remember if there are any others designated... All the sensor plugs are exclusive and will only plug into their prospective sensors. Your injector plugs should have the cylinder number printed on them.
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I made this video for ***** to show how you can easily take an intake manifold off that is stuck.
http://youtu.be/dKWfPQ9AKv0
Camera ran out of memory before it was done, but you get the idea...
http://youtu.be/dKWfPQ9AKv0
Camera ran out of memory before it was done, but you get the idea...
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Well guys, finally got around to doing this putting it all back together now, does anyone have any high res pics of a all stock motor? trying to figure out where a few things go
sam
sam
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LOL because I don't know what the f it is LOL theres some tibes that i cant remember what there from, one has a blue thing on it, thats the best I can tell ya LOL its to dark to snap a pic now
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If it's a small dia rubber tube it's probably for the optispark vent. one goes to the intake elbow the other one goes on a nipple on the drivers side of the intake manifold. Shbox should have a pic.
http://shbox.com/1/opti_vacuum_conn.jpg
http://shbox.com/1/opti_vacuum_hose.jpg
http://shbox.com/1/opti_vacuum_conn.jpg
http://shbox.com/1/opti_vacuum_hose.jpg