khris99s

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I just did a friends car my shop.....2001 Firehawk

(Shop Purchased)
New Lifters
Trays
Head Gaskets
All New Gaskets
2 HID Kits
Full Wet Sand & Buff With Interior
All New Fluids


New Cam (He purschaed)


Installed Total Price $1500

warriorcustoms

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Just remember most people that do a cam/heads upgrade on a high milage motor Spin a bearing or 2 SO if you do all the work yourself you can upgrade to ARP rod bolts & new bearings if all is nice & clean when you start that & put a Z28 oil pump & steal oil pump shaft in too On the heads attention to detail is needed Some rollocks to clean all the mating surfaces helps the procedure Just make sure to stuff rags everywhere & CLEAN the **** out of the cyl walls & piston tops to make sure NO metal shavings get in there Adjusting the valves isnt hard Get the LT1 manual before you start & read it 3 times Then proceed

SS RRR

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Spinning a bearing after a cam install has absolutely nothing to do with how much "wear" the bearing has. It has to do with a sloppy/reckless/hurried/unclean install.

robsquikz28

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ITs a 15 hr job all day long. Atleast if you go by All data or what most shops and dealers use. So with that said and your paying $90 a hr on average. x that by 15hrs you will get $1350
thats minus all the parts included in the swap.

Now throw a cam in the mix and you are paying for another 2 hrs minimum on that.

SO now your at $1530 and thats only in labor.

you will easily spend over 2k in just the parts and labor if at a shop, but I do these jobs at home with far less overhead. Therefore its a lot less for the client.

robsquikz28

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What does that shop charge? They lost $$$ IMO considering the cam swap alone calls for 15hrs.
HEad gaskets call for 13 hrs.

So with that being said they shoulda spent about 1600 min in just labor for the job. Then the rest of the **** woulda been more

96capricemgr

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Changing rodbolts requires having the rods resized by a machine shop.

Exactly why would he want to change to a "z28 oil pump", and why would he want to "steAl" an oil pump driveshaft, a steEl sleeved shaft is reasonable though, the Melling was $8 last I looked, the stock plastic rarely causes any hassles but at $8 to upgrade to a piece that make the engine easier to work with why not.

khris99s

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And nope thats my shop i own it. I can do a cam swap on a LS motor in 3 hr start to finish with it running. Anyone that pulls the heads is crazy... Use the actually tool for keeping the lifters up and boom all done.

Heads are no big deal. Problem is most people overcharge. And the fact that I have know the car for 10 years... We go way back.

Im doing springs on a GTO Now for 300.00 I mean really it will take me all of 2 hrs.

And loose money... No way. Took me all of a day to do it.... I will take 1000 a days work all day every day.

khris99s

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I just did a impala SS 96--- Show Car--- Heads,Cam,Rear 4.10 Gear Set, Stainless Lines, Pads Rotors All 4 Corners--- Customer supplied all materials.


$1500.00 Labor.

2001 TA WS6

Full Interior- New Seat Covers, Door Panels Skins, Rear Seats Head Rest, Cam, Springs, Pushrods, HID Kit, Interior LED Lighting, Couple Odd & Ends Radio Rewire, Amp Relocation Full Color Correction Wet Sand Buff, LCA Install

$1250.00 Labor All Parts Supplied By Customer.

lt4388stroker

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15 hours for a cam swap? what do u have no arms lol?

robsquikz28

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LOL thats not me setting those times. That is Mitchell/ ALL data and dealer times. Most shops use that as a base point for all jobs. NOt me making **** up. I know what it calls for and how long it actually takes

96capricemgr

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Let us just be completely clear here too that a novice tackling it for the first time should plan on a LOT more time. Awesome if you get it done faster but do not plan on it.

robsquikz28

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[QUOTE=khris99s;16284131]I just did a impala SS 96--- Show Car--- Heads,Cam,Rear 4.10 Gear Set, Stainless Lines, Pads Rotors All 4 Corners--- Customer supplied all materials.


$1500.00 Labor.
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DO you work out of your home or a real business location with overhead?

Any shop out here in Chicagoland area will charge about 550 just for the rear gear install.
Brakes with lines about 250-300 installed
cam and heads about 6-900 installed

so your not that far off.

robsquikz28

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[QUOTE=khris99s;16284115]And nope thats my shop i own it. I can do a cam swap on a LS motor in 3 hr start to finish with it running. Anyone that pulls the heads is crazy... Use the actually tool for keeping the lifters up and boom all done.


I wasnt say that the heads needed to be pulled. Just bringing out numbers so everyone can see what the job actually calls for.

khris99s

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[QUOTE=robsquikz28;16284543]Able Automotive
103 S Federal Hwy
Pompano Beach FL 33062
954-784-1101

Real shop full overhead and tons of cars...

https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Ab...87714467958427

Check my facebook you will def see a stack of LSX LT1 and High Performance Stuff plus the everyday cars... Been open since Jan 1st. Only lost money my first month.

Boom that just happened.

trilkb

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actually pizza and beer with friends beats out pizza and beer and a car that needs work lol.

khris99s

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Sounds like my place..... Usually when they first meet and get there... it usually turns into a good friends relationship......

Just finished a New Friends 2012 Challenger--- Full Custom Leather Kit Custom Stiching Custom Seude Custom Logos Front & Rear WIth Door Inserts and Center Counsle For 1150.00 Installed with warranty. And this isnt the cheap crappy kits... Actually built when ordered.

Were are all friends once I get my hands in them.....

Boosted Firehawk

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WHAT tool to hold the lifters up? I have never seen that before Kris

SS RRR

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http://youtu.be/1PcEiwAYe2k

Boosted Firehawk

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where can I buy one?

SS RRR

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Is your internets broke?
If I had to guess I'd say most sponsors on this site would have it as well as just searching for 'LS1 lifter tool' on your favorite search engine.