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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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I'm lookin to upgrade from my current cam, I want something that will lope pretty good and also work fairly well with stock heads and current springs(link in sig).
I will also switch over to 1.6rr during the swap. the car is no longer a dd, more of a weekend street car with occasional track time in the future.

edit: 3600rpm stall and 3.73's will come in before the cam does.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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If you do a quick search you find alot of these same threads. The best hands down cam for stock headed guys right now is the AI or LE 226/234 110lsa cam. Great mid range and a great idle with some chop.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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I think that 110lsa will have more then just some chop
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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I have a custom 224/234 .564/.576 on a 110 from Lloyd and it's a sweet sounding lope. Not excessive at all.
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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 11:30 PM
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Yep, I ran a 228/236 on a 110 from LE. Loved it, made 340rwtq through a stalled auto from 2500 to 6500
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by pancho toco loco
I think that 110lsa will have more then just some chop
i'm lookin for a nasty idle haha im tired of my sleeper cam that didnt really do much :p

any other viable options besides LE and AI as far as custom cams?

edit: would this cam work well with stock heads?
DUR @ .050 234/242
LIFT .573/.573
LSA 111

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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by englundjd
i'm lookin for a nasty idle haha im tired of my sleeper cam that didnt really do much :p

any other viable options besides LE and AI as far as custom cams?

edit: would this cam work well with stock heads?
DUR @ .050 234/242
LIFT .573/.573
LSA 111
Too big for stock heads.....might sound nasty though lol. Somebody on here has the lunati voodoo 60122 who made good power (380 rwhp) with stock heads. Are you looking for just sound or more performance gain? I would go smaller on the cam IMO; I had the next step down lunati voodoo 60121 with stock heads and it worked great and sounded nasty too.

60122
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 231/239
Gross Valve Lift with 1.5RR (Int/Exh): .535/.550
LSA/ICL: 110/106
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That came is huge for stock heads. It may sound nasty but it will run like a turd on stock heads and compression. If you atleast milled the heads down to bump the cr that would be a start but if your going that big you might aswell just do it right the first time and buy a set of matching heads to make full use of it rather then getting owned on the street when people hear your car and want to race you and it performs like a turd.
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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i was just lookin threw the classifieds at 2am and found it... i woke up this morning and realized id have to spin to the moon to make any power with that cam anyway
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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There is always the old GM847, which is what I would have ran if I didnt go through LE
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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Too big for stock heads.....might sound nasty though lol. Somebody on here has the lunati voodoo 60122 who made good power (380 rwhp) with stock heads. Are you looking for just sound or more performance gain? I would go smaller on the cam IMO; I had the next step down lunati voodoo 60121 with stock heads and it worked great and sounded nasty too.

60122
Duration @ .050 (Int/Exh): 231/239
Gross Valve Lift with 1.5RR (Int/Exh): .535/.550
LSA/ICL: 110/106
Yea that'd be me, and I somehow managed it on a Mustang Dyno lol. The guy that tuned my car said it'd probably be close to 400whp on a Dynojet. Horsepower also peaked at 5900rpm's, flattened out till 6100rpm's, and then started to fall off.

To the OP, englundjd, I wouldn't run anything bigger than what I'm running, atleast on stock heads and cubes. My cam is perfectly streetable as it is, only complaint is that it has a bit of a surge at low speeds in low gears, like when driving though parking lots. Other than that I've got plently of mid range power and it rips up top. Can't freakin wait to put a good set of heads on this thing. In my opinion, the Voodoo 60121 or 60122 is fine for stock heads.
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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tbag_skywalker
Yea that'd be me, and I somehow managed it on a Mustang Dyno lol. The guy that tuned my car said it'd probably be close to 400whp on a Dynojet. Horsepower also peaked at 5900rpm's, flattened out till 6100rpm's, and then started to fall off.

To the OP, englundjd, I wouldn't run anything bigger than what I'm running, atleast on stock heads and cubes. My cam is perfectly streetable as it is, only complaint is that it has a bit of a surge at low speeds in low gears, like when driving though parking lots. Other than that I've got plently of mid range power and it rips up top. Can't freakin wait to put a good set of heads on this thing. In my opinion, the Voodoo 60121 or 60122 is fine for stock heads.
Well that sounds like a decent cam to me im A4 so it'll eat up quite a bit of cam surge... think the springs i have will work with this cam? max lift on my springs is .595 and with 1.6rr it'll be around .587 max lift on the exhaust side...



edit: valve spring specs

•Outside Diameter- 1.268"
•Inside Diameter- .880"
•130 Lbs @ 1.790"
•330 Lbs @ .500" Lift
•345 Lbs @ .550" Lift
•360 Lbs @ .595" Lift
•Average Coil Bind- 1.140"

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Old Jun 5, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by englundjd
Well that sounds like a decent cam to me im A4 so it'll eat up quite a bit of cam surge... think the springs i have will work with this cam? max lift on my springs is .595 and with 1.6rr it'll be around .587 max lift on the exhaust side...



edit: valve spring specs

•Outside Diameter- 1.268"
•Inside Diameter- .880"
•130 Lbs @ 1.790"
•330 Lbs @ .500" Lift
•345 Lbs @ .550" Lift
•360 Lbs @ .595" Lift
•Average Coil Bind- 1.140"
Not sure how close you can push a valve spring to its limit, hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will chime in on it. I knew when I upgraded my valve springs that I would eventually run a fairly aggressive heads/cam setup on my car, so I bought valve springs that had a lot more capability than what I needed at the time.

Ended up buying Patriot Gold double springs that can handle up to .650" lift and have 375 lbs for seat pressure at that lift. I might be a little uneasy about running a .587" lift with springs that aren't rated for more than .595", but then again you're probably fine.
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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ok thanks for the help dude... did you put bigger injectors on or are you stock still?
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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Still running the stock injectors. Not sure how loaded up they are, but the tuner didn't say anything to me about them so I'm assuming they're fine. Car seems to be running fine, too.
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