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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 09:42 PM
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My friend and I just priced out a 383 build done right for his 85 Camaro. Needless to say we are doing a turbo 4.8 swap into it
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by little Red Camaro
Problem with the LS swap, I know myself and I am going to go big. I've already done heads and cam, all the bolt ons etc to my 02 trans am. I have made my mind up and going 383 for now, and after the car is done I'll start collecting parts for my LSX build. And I think I will get 450+ out of my 383, if I build it right. Then spray it with a little juice! Juice will be for those damn cobras picking on my little LT1!
Pretty much what I'm doing *shrugs*
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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LT1 is fine for that reason IMO. Plus, you'll probably reach around 400rwhp with a properly built LT1 383, how much more do you need for a fun cruiser?
I was knocking more than that down with a stock bottom end LT1 through a 12 Bolt! Joe's (ramair95TAfromnewjerseythatsgren) 383 is the perfect example of one done right, nothing exotic, the cam is a medium sized hyd roller, even has LT1 castings and it's putting down 450 in an auto and running 10s. Larry's 396 is very similar and runs great. Mid 400s from a 383 LT1 is very doable. Put a kit on top of that and in the right car it's a 10 second street car all day.
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 11:06 PM
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It's just impresses the hell out of me when you see a 11 second LT1. That to me says something about the car and the owner.
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
I was knocking more than that down with a stock bottom end LT1 through a 12 Bolt! Joe's (ramair95TAfromnewjerseythatsgren) 383 is the perfect example of one done right, nothing exotic, the cam is a medium sized hyd roller, even has LT1 castings and it's putting down 450 in an auto and running 10s. Larry's 396 is very similar and runs great. Mid 400s from a 383 LT1 is very doable. Put a kit on top of that and in the right car it's a 10 second street car all day.
mid 400s then!
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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LS, in a LT1 car.. That's sex...
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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An LSX can go aluminum big cubes where an LTX block cannot. IMO that's a huge advantage. It's a real shame no one is casting big bore LTx blocks. I can't even use my own T56 if I were to swap.
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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The biggest shame in the ltx market is the lackluster support.. honestly a 396 w/ a set of converted all pro's will make well over 800hp at the crank.. but you gotta spend the coin, for what it cost's to do a LS motor either iron, or aluminum, your way ahead of the game financially, and the reliability of a ls motor w/ h/c vs. a LTx w/ h/c etc given the current mileage of most motor's now that their 15yrs old.. Its almost a no brainer.. FWIW i have a set of converted all pro's For sale.. haha..
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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The biggest shame in the ltx market is the lackluster support.. honestly a 396 w/ a set of converted all pro's will make well over 800hp at the crank.. but you gotta spend the coin, for what it cost's to do a LS motor either iron, or aluminum, your way ahead of the game financially, and the reliability of a ls motor w/ h/c vs. a LTx w/ h/c etc given the current mileage of most motor's now that their 15yrs old.. Its almost a no brainer.. FWIW i have a set of converted all pro's For sale.. haha..
This is why I didn't do anything radical. There's no track here, yet... Just found myself an very awesome set of heads, rebuilt the the block and viola! A very reliable 425 rwhp daily driver. With an upgraded tubular front end of course

I've had my hawk on the road since October of last year and I still haven't even scored a race with anyone. LOL

PS: I would love to drop in a 600+ rwhp NA 427ci LSX if I had the coin!

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Originally Posted by IllusionalTA
The biggest shame in the ltx market is the lackluster support.. honestly a 396 w/ a set of converted all pro's will make well over 800hp at the crank.. but you gotta spend the coin, for what it cost's to do a LS motor either iron, or aluminum, your way ahead of the game financially, and the reliability of a ls motor w/ h/c vs. a LTx w/ h/c etc given the current mileage of most motor's now that their 15yrs old.. Its almost a no brainer.. FWIW i have a set of converted all pro's For sale.. haha..
Didn't think you had those still, weren't they All Pro 240s?
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Didn't think you had those still, weren't they All Pro 240s?
What are they?
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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All Pro 245RR's Baddest SBC head on the planet.. There are other nice castings out there as well.. Ron Rhodes runs a set.. His car flys..
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Originally Posted by Rob94hawk
This is why I didn't do anything radical. There's no track here, yet... Just found myself an very awesome set of heads, rebuilt the the block and viola! A very reliable 425 rwhp daily driver. With an upgraded tubular front end of course

I've had my hawk on the road since October of last year and I still haven't even scored a race with anyone. LOL

PS: I would love to drop in a 600+ rwhp NA 427ci LSX if I had the coin!
Let's get together... Shoot me a pm w/ your cell..
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Old Aug 2, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Mind change again. Going to go LS. It's just seems to be the best option. Eventually was goin to go that rout anyways so mine as well do it from the start. I think I would be money ahead in the long run.
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 01:04 AM
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I'm have the same thought as you OP. I had a 3rd gen camaro with a ls1/t56 and was a blast. But parted it out to get my '97 SS which is a procharged LT1 (I got a killer deal).
So now I just tell myself if the motor ever blows, I'll think about going LSx and swap the procharger on that motor
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Old Aug 3, 2012 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by xDetroitMetalx
LT1 is fine for that reason IMO. Plus, you'll probably reach around 400rwhp with a properly built LT1 383, how much more do you need for a fun cruiser?
400rwhp is a cakewalk with a stock bottom end. Any decently spec'd ported heads/cam setup will do that. I'd hope you could do 400rwhp with a 383.

Originally Posted by 94LTZ
After doing a couple LT1 builds i went to a LSx swap and would never look back, im in my swap for around 5k and will have a forged 348 with close to have 400whp and a LS7 clutch setup, i would never look back with the reliability and ease of finding parts.

Personally, I'd be sick to my stomach if I went through the bother of swapping a motor to only get 400rwhp.

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Originally Posted by little Red Camaro
It's just impresses the hell out of me when you see a 11 second LT1. That to me says something about the car and the owner.
Heads, cam, (supporting bolt on mods, of course) stall, minor suspension, drag radials...11's all day.



The fact of the matter is, most people don't use either platform to anywhere near its full potential, so if all you're looking for it 400rwhp, I think a swap would be foolish. Now if you're looking for a streetable pumpgas N/A 600rwhp...thats another story...
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Old Aug 10, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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im looking to swap my lt1 to a ls1 out of my 93 camaro, does anyone have any information on step by step with pictures on how its done?
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Do a search for the merv he did a very extensive but economical LsX build..
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