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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 07:46 PM
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So im thinking on getting an edelbrock LT1 intake with a BBK 58mm TB, full bolts ons, kooks LTs. What performance gains should I expect at the crank? But my main concern is the edelbrock intake vs the stock intake.
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Thanks. What is it about stock intake thats better then an aftermarket? Im assuming edelbrock wont matter until its a stroker?!
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The edelbrock is a well produced piece of junk meant to prey on those who believe in a name.

Your 93 intake has the largest ports of the LT intakes and lacks the fuel rail crossover which is something of a MINOR hinderance to flow. So there is a good argument to be made that you have the best LT1 intake. The few documented tests of the Edelbrock intake we have HURT performance a tiny amount. The plenum volume is reduced something like 28% which is WRONG for a performance application and worse for a stroker. It is just junk forget it exists.

There are those folks who don't like it when people say bad things about the Edelbrock JUNK but IMO we shouldn't support a company for offering things that are basically stock replacement but pretending they are "performance".

The Edelbrock heads/cam/intake/TB package makes less flywheel HP than what guys expect from ported LT1 heads unported stock intake custom cam and larger TB.

I said it is JUNK and maybe I should clarify that it is well made but badly designed. It is a quality product that does NOT add an appropriate amount of power.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 10:48 PM
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The only reason the buy the Edelbrock intake is if you need LT4 ports.

Then cutting it up and porting and modifing it will get the most out of it
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If you are cutting then why not just weld some material above the LT1 ports and have the flange milled flat? Guessing that would be cheaper than the $465 Summit list price on the Edelbrock .
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If you are cutting then why not just weld some material above the LT1 ports and have the flange milled flat? Guessing that would be cheaper than the $465 Summit list price on the Edelbrock .
I hear do do not have to weld up the area under the injectors...but I could be wrong. end results of modified intakes are worth it but not cheap. I had every penny of $2,500 in mine by the time we were done.

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I have heard the LT1 intake will seal to LT4 heads but the margin gets thin at the top of the port. Welding material on there would allow for a thicker margin and any room needed for porting.
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Originally Posted by 93Euphoria
So im thinking on getting an edelbrock LT1 intake with a BBK 58mm TB, full bolts ons, kooks LTs. What performance gains should I expect at the crank? But my main concern is the edelbrock intake vs the stock intake.
Save the money to have the heads and stock intake ported.
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Well I am glad I found this thread. I was thinking about buying that package for my Caprice but I guess after seeing this maybe I won't
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
The edelbrock is a well produced piece of junk meant to prey on those who believe in a name.

Your 93 intake has the largest ports of the LT intakes and lacks the fuel rail crossover which is something of a MINOR hinderance to flow. So there is a good argument to be made that you have the best LT1 intake. The few documented tests of the Edelbrock intake we have HURT performance a tiny amount. The plenum volume is reduced something like 28% which is WRONG for a performance application and worse for a stroker. It is just junk forget it exists.

There are those folks who don't like it when people say bad things about the Edelbrock JUNK but IMO we shouldn't support a company for offering things that are basically stock replacement but pretending they are "performance".

The Edelbrock heads/cam/intake/TB package makes less flywheel HP than what guys expect from ported LT1 heads unported stock intake custom cam and larger TB.

I said it is JUNK and maybe I should clarify that it is well made but badly designed. It is a quality product that does NOT add an appropriate amount of power.

OP, get used to seeing this ^^^ alot.... (especially from him...really, do a search on edelbrock and see how much he and a few others bash it...)

Remember in the end its your money... do some research, look around and see who has and who has not built what your looking for....

The only thing I will say is, dont bother doing the intake without heads and a cam as well....
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Here is an idea of a stock intake that makes single plane power



it started like this


this is where you have to weld for LT4 ports


Here is a stock LT4 port...it really needs more welding to but covers the port opening
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 02:09 AM
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The edelbrock is a well produced piece of junk meant to prey on those who believe in a name.

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This is a month and a half old thread and I think the OP has had 6 different plans since then.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Go buy a Brodix LT1 intake or CFE LT1 intake or RHS or World or anybody but Edelbrock.Have fun looking because nobody else makes one.
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Old Dec 2, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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If you can fab you can cut the top off the factory intake and increase the plenum, that will help.

Ellis no one around here mods the factory intakes anymore like they did back in the day, with extra welding about the injectors and such lol
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ok since this thread is dead, question for u ellis or anyone w a custom fabbed intake is there really that much to be gained by custom specing runner length, volume ,plenum volume?advantages over single plane other than just what i mention just curious this is kinda next on my list of things to do.Thank u for ur time in advance.
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1needingboost
With a custom fabbed intake, is there really that much to be gained by custom specing the runner length, volume, and plenum volume? Are there advantages over single plane, other than what I just mentioned? I'm just curious, as this is kinda next on my list of things to do.
The stock intake is not the airflow bottleneck - the 48 mm TB is the point of the greatest restriction (some will argue the MAF as well).

So, you can have the stock intake ported and opened up for a 52 / 54 (or even 58) mm TB, and it'll cost less than $500 - but HPP or GMHTP a couple of years ago had a feature on this new aftermarket LT1 intake and (with zero other changes) it made - +5 HP.

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I had MY intake ported, opened up for a 52 mm TB, and then painted Pontiac Engine Block Blue; so, of course, I am a Heretic.

My advice - Do what YOU want to do!
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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 01:39 PM
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I will tell you this it will be 1500+ just to have someone start cutting on the intake. Here is two of my sheetmetal intakes. They cost way too much, but it did help.


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Old Dec 3, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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What would make the edelbrock intake better or is the whole design bad. Just wondering cus I currently have one in my car with nothing done to it, just pulled out of the box and onto the engine. 383 procharged making 550 HP and 530tq on 9 psi
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