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Suspension/weight reduction help needed
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Suspension/weight reduction help needed hey guys so im ready to order some stuff now that i sold my 91 camaro rs sadly 
i loved that little car...anyway im going to order my converter FINALLY lol now im ready for my suspension and weight reduction and here is what i need help with so please tell me which would be best for my goal's
1. BMR tubular rear lca's or BMR boxed rear lca's
2. BMR torque arms adjustable or non adjustable
3. BMR weld in or bolt in control arm relocation bracket's
those are things i need help choosing which is best i dont know if there is any advantages over bolt in or weld in, or if the adjustable torque arm is worth the extra cash for the adjustable one.
now weight i have a 1996 trans am t top automatic car, i want to be in the 3200lb range with me in the car, im 200 pounds. can this be done w/o cutting the whole car apart, and keeping the 2 front seats? what things can, and cant go i dont wana start cutting or removing things ill need. thanks again guys!!
i loved that little car...anyway im going to order my converter FINALLY lol now im ready for my suspension and weight reduction and here is what i need help with so please tell me which would be best for my goal's1. BMR tubular rear lca's or BMR boxed rear lca's
2. BMR torque arms adjustable or non adjustable
3. BMR weld in or bolt in control arm relocation bracket's
those are things i need help choosing which is best i dont know if there is any advantages over bolt in or weld in, or if the adjustable torque arm is worth the extra cash for the adjustable one.
now weight i have a 1996 trans am t top automatic car, i want to be in the 3200lb range with me in the car, im 200 pounds. can this be done w/o cutting the whole car apart, and keeping the 2 front seats? what things can, and cant go i dont wana start cutting or removing things ill need. thanks again guys!!
1. Tubular is lighter than boxed.
2. Depends on what you are going to use the car for the most. For the most extreme you can do a chassis mount torque arm that is adjustable, but because it mounts directly to the chassis you will experience "extra cirricular" vibration that's normally displaced in a trans mount torque arm. Unless you are planning to get real serious about the track I think I'd stick with a tubular torque arm that mounts to the trans.
3. Definitely weld-on. Far more durable. Just make sure your diff. is square before they are welded on.
No idea about weight removal. Good luck.
2. Depends on what you are going to use the car for the most. For the most extreme you can do a chassis mount torque arm that is adjustable, but because it mounts directly to the chassis you will experience "extra cirricular" vibration that's normally displaced in a trans mount torque arm. Unless you are planning to get real serious about the track I think I'd stick with a tubular torque arm that mounts to the trans.
3. Definitely weld-on. Far more durable. Just make sure your diff. is square before they are welded on.
No idea about weight removal. Good luck.
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I have a (now) no option hardtop, a4 and its 3300~ with me in the car at 170lbs.
I've removed- AC, carpet, most interior, jack and spare, rear speakers and amp/sub, stock manifolds and y pipe w/cats. Also put in crank window doors, but don't think the doors weight much different, forgot to weigh them when I switched.
Things I have yet to remove- traction control, ABS, rear seats, bumper supports, rest of hvac system and some stuff I'm forgetting I'm sure. This was also on stock wheels, would be some more weight to lose going to light weight bigs and littles I'd wager.
I've removed- AC, carpet, most interior, jack and spare, rear speakers and amp/sub, stock manifolds and y pipe w/cats. Also put in crank window doors, but don't think the doors weight much different, forgot to weigh them when I switched.
Things I have yet to remove- traction control, ABS, rear seats, bumper supports, rest of hvac system and some stuff I'm forgetting I'm sure. This was also on stock wheels, would be some more weight to lose going to light weight bigs and littles I'd wager.
I got my car to 3010 pretty easily. I removed the following:
Dash, ziptied guages to firewall
Passenger airbag
Speakers and head unit
complete HVAC system
rubber padding below your feet
carpet
rear seats/seat belts
interior panels
door panels
headliner
spare and jack
AIR system
floor mats
center console
That was WITH both front and rear crash supports, and zero cutting, and both front seats. Complete stock front suspension, tubular rear suspension, 10 bolt, M6 hardtop manual windows/locks car. After I removed the crash supports and ditched the 40lb catback for a 9lb magnaflow bullet, and got the rest of the black rubber off the firewall, I was probably at around 2910.
Dash, ziptied guages to firewall
Passenger airbag
Speakers and head unit
complete HVAC system
rubber padding below your feet
carpet
rear seats/seat belts
interior panels
door panels
headliner
spare and jack
AIR system
floor mats
center console
That was WITH both front and rear crash supports, and zero cutting, and both front seats. Complete stock front suspension, tubular rear suspension, 10 bolt, M6 hardtop manual windows/locks car. After I removed the crash supports and ditched the 40lb catback for a 9lb magnaflow bullet, and got the rest of the black rubber off the firewall, I was probably at around 2910.
Last edited by bufmatmuslepants; Jan 5, 2013 at 06:30 PM.
This was when I still needed heat so I left this much of the heater box in and zip tied the HVAC controls to the cross bar with the head unit
It was 3070 in this pic. Removing stereo, HVAC, door panels and adding passenger seat got me to 3010.
Last edited by bufmatmuslepants; Jan 5, 2013 at 06:50 PM.
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ok wow, thanks for the input on everything, now this maybe a kinda hard to answer question but i watched a video on youtube, the guys name was BIGT94Z and was running 12.20's on a bolt on lt1 m6 and his engine bay looked soo nice, and clean and OPEN any idea's what can be taken out of there? here is the video
if you pause on 1.45 you will see what im talking about, he may even be a member here. thanks guys for info!!! ohh any idea what can be laid down thats not as heavy as the factpry carpet, but hide the metal??
if you pause on 1.45 you will see what im talking about, he may even be a member here. thanks guys for info!!! ohh any idea what can be laid down thats not as heavy as the factpry carpet, but hide the metal??
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Verdad Gallardo ok wow, thanks for the input on everything, now this maybe a kinda hard to answer question but i watched a video on youtube, the guys name was BIGT94Z and was running 12.20's on a bolt on lt1 m6 and his engine bay looked soo nice, and clean and OPEN any idea's what can be taken out of there? here is the video
if you pause on 1.45 you will see what im talking about, he may even be a member here. thanks guys for info!!! ohh any idea what can be laid down thats not as heavy as the factpry carpet, but hide the metal??
if you pause on 1.45 you will see what im talking about, he may even be a member here. thanks guys for info!!! ohh any idea what can be laid down thats not as heavy as the factpry carpet, but hide the metal??
A full bolton LT1 is capable of low 12s with a good driver on a low DA day.
There are some lightweight carpets out there, but they are kinda expensive. I have seen some guys just go to walmart and get some cheap fabric, and put it down on the floor everywhere. Weighs practically nothing, and is cheap as hell, but you need something to protect it from your heels because it rips easily.
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cool thanks guys, man im excited to see what i can make it do next summer. BTW any coil over's or drag shocks i can get what would work well, or just do the bmr stuff for now. The car will be a summer cruiser, not worried about any creature comforts either so im thinking about taking the AC out, also i read some were about removing power steering?? wouldnt i need to buy a manual rack?
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thanks guys for the info as always!!! i have heard from various people they have hit high 12's with 4.10's, drag radial's, full bolt ons, and while being on stock converter and suspension but i havnt seen any in person, or read about it. i ques that's possible tho.
