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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 04:41 PM
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Cardo,

Since you are quick to defend golen, you should look into his engines for the jeep guys, you may find some more negative reviews. It all may be hearsay, but buying a motor from that kind of shop would be a huge risk IMO especially since any competent engine shop locally can set up a SBC.

Start looking locally and asking local racers for opinions on shops, most of the good old school guys won't be active on online forums dealing with ******** like us. And the plus side to local work, is you can walk through their door to check on progress, come back to say how awesome the motor is, or throw the pieces of the blown motor in their face.
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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The other thing is a LOT of folks are happy with crap because one they don't know any better and two EGO wont let them admit thier huge screwup.

Far as how my my friend's TPIS setup car made, never dyno'd but it was their small TPIS CNC'd AFRs and their 239/239 cam. Made so little power my 190cc heads/cam setup was MUCH quicker despite my weight disadvantage.

When I sold the old 190cc setup he was actually interested in buying it but timing was bad for him. Those heads were his originally I bought the cores from him.
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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Remember that time when cardo0 got banned from cz28.com for being a self-proclaimed know-it-all and had the moderators put him in his place because he tried informing the LT1 community that the stock LT1 intake manifold is a "sad limitation" to the LT1 engine?

Good times, good times.
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 09:40 PM
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More BS. I was never banned from camaroz28.com. They do have an ego maniac moderator that covers for their longstanding bad mouthing buddies over there. He gave me a warning because his sorry azz cronies couldn't take plain facts - so i never went back. Wasn't worth the effort just to post the truth so they can bath in their pig sty all they want now. Guess it hurt'm real bad as the lame brains have to look real hard to find mud on me. And they mention another forum every time they get butt hurt. Same clowns can't get away with it on a forum with an honest moderator though. Lucky for some we don't have a rating for harassment. To say i was ever banned there is another total lie - and from the usual bad mouth.

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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 09:54 PM
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Some one wants to talk LT1 intakes now? Hope the OP takes this bashing crap for what it really is. I believe i was looking for a better match for my mild cammed engine using my auto trans. At the time i wanted a Lingenfelter Super Ram as i believe Lingenfelter proved better with an auto trans than the stock LT1. Problem is no CARB number for the 4th gen camaro Super Ram.
So if bad mouth knows a better intake than the Super Ram for my A4 then lets hear it. Or how 'bout just a good engine shop for the OP - some info that might actually help someone.

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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 10:17 PM
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Better yet take that 14 second pos, lock the hood shut with a chain, put your fantasy world books and magazines in the trunk and drive it off a cliff...into the ocean.... With the windows up so the useless reading material can't float to the top and make it into the wrong hands.
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Better send out the book on hydraulic lifters first so someday the WS6 sized bad mouth can see whats inside and maybe figure out how a lifter works.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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Watch it gupp. U tell me why posts on another forum about an intake have to do with a Golen or TPIS engine on this forum. Only when some butt hurt bad mouthing slobs are trying to save their face. Is that gonn'a be u too gupp??
Fact is the biggest name vendors get the most complaints. Just the nature of the business. The more parts u sell the more idiots find a way to F'em up. Comp Cams, Edelbrock, definitely GMPP, even AFR get all kinds of complaints. Not that their product is even that bad but because they sell the most of their products.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 07:12 AM
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OP if you are looking at getting a stroker then research is key. Asking here is alright, but then you get opinions all over the place. Make no mistake, Golen shouldn't even be considered due to their track record. Too many credible sources and threads that have spawned all over the internet backs this up. I would suggest asking for references from the shop you are looking into. Either that or go to the track and ask around to see what those who race have to say.

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Better yet take that 14 second pos, lock the hood shut with a chain, put your fantasy world books and magazines in the trunk and drive it off a cliff...into the ocean.... With the windows up so the useless reading material can't float to the top and make it into the wrong hands.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 07:55 AM
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So, solid flat tappet lifters are better than stock roller hydraulic lifters for daily usage?
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
So, solid flat tappet lifters are better than stock roller hydraulic lifters for daily usage?
Why even ask such a silly ******* question? That's just absurd and no logic and reason should be given to even back up this claim because it's just understood that YES they are! What's wrong with you?
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 01:10 PM
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We live in a society that has had advertizing REPLACE reputation in far too many cases.

Look at cardo still wanting to say Edelbrock is good when for the engine this section is for their heads/cam package makes less fwhp than most expect at the tires from ported OEM stuff, magazines have even documented how bad the intake is but you will always have too many people like him who believe in a name. Note I am not condeming Edelbrock as a whole, their LT1 heads/cam/intake are crap the Edelbrock/BBK TB is OK and their products for old school carbed engines generally are a fair bit better than the OEM stuff was.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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Gupp, the only Golen customer i knew and was trying to help with cam choice was happy with his Golen. Poor guy, i told him to use shorter cam but he bought too large of cam and after realizing it he sent it back to Golen for a smaller cam because he wasn't up to do it himself and Golen made it right. But he is your typical enthusiast - doesn't have the time or experience to do it all himself and just wants a reliable part/engine with good performance. So why all bashing for a company that supports out GEN II niche?? Some may think they can get a better performance with a local build but i wouldn't count on it. When i talk with the machine shop owners/vendors at local car shows they seem to know less than what i do 'bout LT1 heads. Simple LT1 rebuild probably be fine for most shops but when u start asking for more performance good luck matching cam, compression, cubic inches and the computer for our LT1.
As for this thread it maybe a consensus here but only 2 participants where actual owners one happy and one mad - and about a half dozen that show up just for the personal attacks because their still butt hurt over another thread they were just as stupid in.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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WOW.... You all should just shut up. Freaking nonsense going on in here. It is one thing to talk about TPiS, but to go on about Golen is useless. What is with the personal jabs at someone just to argue an opinion. For some of you I expected better than this crap. Joking is fine but some of this is unreasonable.

to the op,
I would, as some have said, go to your local track and see what/who people are using for their motors, and judge that to what their time slips are showing. IF going to a larger displacement engine prepare for the extra added cost of doing so. Don't go cheaply, and use your head more than your wallet. That being said, The stock crank with good rods and pistons will hold more than what 90% of most people are willing to work for. There is MORE to it than just building an engine and running to the local track.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Why even ask such a silly ******* question? That's just absurd and no logic and reason should be given to even back up this claim because it's just understood that YES they are! What's wrong with you?
Wow! Did you read this before you posted it? Kinda hateful.
Understood by who? I would have to say you are mistaken.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Wow! Did you read this before you posted it? Kinda hateful.
Understood by who? I would have to say you are mistaken.
If you knew SS RRR you'd know that he's being sarcastic.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cardo0
Some may think they can get a better performance with a local build but i wouldn't count on it. When i talk with the machine shop owners/vendors at local car shows they seem to know less than what i do 'bout LT1 heads. Simple LT1 rebuild probably be fine for most shops but when u start asking for more performance good luck matching cam, compression, cubic inches and the computer for our LT1.
Who said anything about asking around a car show? READ for the love of all things... Have you ever actually been to a dragstrip?
So basically what you're saying is it's better to go with an already built short block by some internet company who "supports the LT1 niche" than it does dealing with a local builder face to face?
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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If a local shop has an open mind you can probably teach them about the LT1 specific stuff like the extra compression we use and the difference in rpm range our intake makes for with a given cam duration.

Besides where are actual examples of these LT1 "experts" having made any real power. I don't mean on the happy house dyno either I mean in actual quick cars.
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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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I had TPIS assemble my shortblock last year. Every experience I've had with them has been a good one. I haven't had my car dyno'd yet unfortunately, but the car sure runs strong and hopefully soon I'll get her on the rollers for the final tune and have some solid feedback on the motor for you guys...

I did research before I brought my engine there and didn't really find anything very negative about TPIS. When I made a build thread Dwayne (I think) commented about his buddy with the bad sleeve which was the first time I heard of bad service from them. Never the less his experience did make me worry a bit. When I looked into Doug Rippie online last year I read somewhere that he wasn't into LT1s anymore so I didn't even get in contact with him, though in retrospect I should have just to compare pricing..

This thread is the first time I've seen a decent amount of collective negative input on TPIS' service. Prices may have been expensive, but I'm not so sure. I haven't had many people tell me what they paid when they had a shop do shortblock work like I have. And what I have read online it seems like I paid about average. Though maybe a bit on the high side. When I posted how much I paid on my build thread no one said I paid a lot, but maybe they just kept their opinions to themselves. If so I would like to hear some opinions on the pricing just for fun..

I know it's hard to take somebodies word on forums like this but my engine is going strong. Haven't burned any oil or coolant, nor have I lost any due to leaks coming from the block. Also, TPIS base tuned my computer and I'm sort of surprised as to how well the car behaves. A little rich, but I hardly have any cam surge and fuel consumption is a bit better then I thought it would be just on a base tune.

TPIS is only about 15-20 minutes away from me so it was really easy to just have them do the work. Even so, as I get my car tuned more thoroughly and accumulate more miles I'll definitely continue to interject my engines condition with dyno pics/videos and later down the road some gopro track videos.

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