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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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Ill do a build thread after I'm done, I've already got all my parts, just waiting for a free weekend.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 07:33 PM
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Cardo0, nobody is following you around you paranoid freak, alot of us frequent the same forums. We see your posts and normally you spout crap you read in a magazine that is so far off the page that we feel the need to chime in and offer a counter to your BS statements before someone accidentally takes it as the best advice. For example, you said that iron B body heads flow 20% more than aluminum heads on ls1lt1, ( http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/lt1-%7C-...-head-lt1.html )yes, we all called you out on that because its retarded, if that were the case, guys running Super Stock like Ed Wright would be using them, or us in Street Stock. What classes do you race? Do you race? Do you do anything other than read old articles from the 90s? You contradict guys who HAVE the setups that you argue against, like bowtienut, he has been pushing an ARP stock longblock into the 10s for years at 7000rpm. The stock bottom end, stock cam, stock heads are best shifted at 6300, why do I say that? Because guys like myself, CamaroRacing12, and Shon Herron who have been in the low 12-high 11s with boltons only shift at 6300. We have hundreds of passes to prove where the stock heads/cam needs to be shifted for best performance. None of us have wasted a stock bottom end. hrcslam HAS a big cam 355, what do you have? Nothing. You would rather read a magazine article about some parts (which Ed Wright has explained time and time again that you get PAID by Edelbrock or whoever to give a POSITIVE review, or NO REVIEW or they dont get PAID) instead of unbiased (WE DONT GET PAID BY WHO WE BUY OUR PARTS FROM) forum feedback. Your article from the 90s says eagle cast cranks are fine, and it has been shown that up until about 5-7 years ago they were fine up to 400hp, but in the past 5-7 years, even GOLEN has stopped using eagle cast cranks, and is warrantying their engines when an eagle cast crank fails. You spend so much time on these forums, but all you do is contradict what RECENT feedback is, with old crap you read from the 90s. **** has changed since the 90s, Edelbrock shorties are not the "hot ticket" for LT1s anymore, neither is the 306. In the 90s, Im sure there are tons of articles saying how great those parts were, but thats because that was all that was available.

You do your research, and do your own build based on your own reading. Ill do mine. Mine is going be like Bowtienuts bottom end, I'm assembling it myself, its in my garage right now, about to be torn down and sent to the machine shop for the rods resized for ARP bolts. Heads and 230/240 0.600/0.602 lift with 1.6 rockers cam ready to go in, and its going to be spun to 7000rpm. When your build is done, well race.



Look at this pile of BS. U really like to run your mouth until your called to the table and now u sequel like a pig with your damage control. Regardless how much more iron heads flow they do flow more and id beware of an internet "expert" that dont know how to utilize them. I dont care if its 20% or 5% they do flow more and your such a slimy snake u drag this from an entirely different forum just attack me here. What else do u call it? Now u sequel like a pig when i find u have no experience rebuilding or even replacing a cam - zero. What a farce. What a hypocrite!

And even a 10 year old can read cheap Eagles cranks are rated for only 400 hp. Which to most high school graduates means dont buy their cast cranks if your going over 400hp - but hey not everyone has that much common sense - meaning u. And u want to drag that out now too. Again you dont have snake snot for experience. Your so F'n hypocritical its scary. And u accuse me of paranoia when to drag up 1 old thread after another? U expect your claimed hearsay from the bolt on crowd is believable? The way u lie u'd only make a good rug. The accusation im getting paid by who "Edlebrock" has got to be the biggest BS lie i have ever heard u make. What a sorry azz loser. Just shut your big azz dumb mouth up.

Yea i got a LT1 block and heads in my garage too, so what. So should i post how super duper its gonna be someday? Hell no. I cant throw that much BS around like u do. I cant lie like that either.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 08:02 PM
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Sequel, you mean squeal. And I didn't mean YOU as in Cardo gets paid by edelbrock, I meant the person doing the testing for the magazine, doing the review for readers in a magazine, my example was that Ed Wright has explained how he was GIVEN free edelbrock parts to give a positive review of those parts for a magazine, even though they sucked, but a positive review meant he got to keep the heads and cam. Your reading comprehension of my paragraph leads me to question your reading comprehension of your books and magazines.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 09:56 PM
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Agree with everything, but this:
neither is the 306. In the 90s, Im sure there are tons of articles saying how great those parts were, but thats because that was all that was available.
Perhaps you just don't believe me or are drinking too much of the LE/Bert juice. I don't know, but a a 306 paired up with good heads still compares to the run-of-the-mill average mid and low 11 sec. LT1 setups of more modern times.

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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Agree with everything, but this:

Perhaps you just don't believe me or are drinking too much of the LE/Bert juice. I don't know, but a a 306 paired up with good heads still compares to the run-of-the-mill average mid and low 11 sec. LT1 setups of more modern times.
Agreed, I've seen some head/cam 306 cars run very well, but given the choice and the $50 difference, you don't have to run an off the shelf cam anymore.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Agree with everything, but this:

Perhaps you just don't believe me or are drinking too much of the LE/Bert juice. I don't know, but a a 306 paired up with good heads still compares to the run-of-the-mill average mid and low 11 sec. LT1 setups of more modern times.
Its time to let go Dick, Bert does not work with or for LE anymore. So now you can only hate on LE for some odd, creepy, nuthugger-esque fashion.

My old cam had dem lazy lobes, I kicked em off welfare and upgraded to hard working lobes.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
Agreed, I've seen some head/cam 306 cars run very well, but given the choice and the $50 difference, you don't have to run an off the shelf cam anymore.
Given the choice of a proven performer against some of these new "custom" grinds, I'd rather go the lazy lobe route.
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Its time to let go Dick, Bert does not work with or for LE anymore.
The wake of bullshit from days of old can still be seen every now and again. You mad I'm picking on your boy, man-crush?
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Given the choice of a proven performer against some of these new "custom" grinds, I'd rather go the lazy lobe route.

The wake of bullshit from days of old can still be seen every now and again. You mad I'm picking on your boy, man-crush?
Not at all, I just don't understand the hate, you and Dwayne are
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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I dunno, man-crush. I guess it's because it was a real hoot to see my measily 370rwhp LPE emissions legal cam setup beat these LE combos with much larger cam profiles, then read the slew of excuses, as well as seeing those abandon LE and run better. Therefore I think the "" is a bit justified, even though I am loyal to no brand. Now you see, I am merely a troll. You, being the man-crush guy are the one who deserves the "" accolades.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
I dunno, man-crush. I guess it's because it was a real hoot to see my measily 370rwhp LPE emissions legal cam setup beat these LE combos with much larger cam profiles, then read the slew of excuses, as well as seeing those abandon LE and run better. Therefore I think the "" is a bit justified, even though I am loyal to no brand. Now you see, I am merely a troll. You, being the man-crush guy are the one who deserves the "" accolades.
Perhaps, all comes down to money. If you are spending less on heads/cam it means you spent less on suspension and you ain't gonna put down good times.

In the end, its like a bunch of retards arguing over which glue tastes better anyway. LSX > *
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 09:01 AM
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I'll agree to disagree, but whatevs. It was a way to pass the time on the internets messages forums and I got to know about a lot of good people and a lot of titty babies. One such LE supporting butt hurt person telling me I should **** the corpse of my dead father. Classy is as classy does, Lt. Dan.
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
I'll agree to disagree, but whatevs. It was a way to pass the time on the internets messages forums and I got to know about a lot of good people and a lot of titty babies. One such LE supporting butt hurt person telling me I should **** the corpse of my dead father. Classy is as classy does, Lt. Dan.
Lost me on that one richard.

Troll perhaps but I don't do personal attacks.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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Wait, your solid roller did 11 what? My silly stupid internet failing street driven le2 setup on 11:1 went 10.85 @124 on a **** 60'. Poor on the excuses old man.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Lost me on that one richard.

Troll perhaps but I don't do personal attacks.
man-crush > LSx

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Wait, your solid roller did 11 what? My silly stupid internet failing street driven le2 setup on 11:1 went 10.85 @124 on a **** 60'. Poor on the excuses old man.
I know, right? I should be embarrassed and humiliated for my full weight pile, where the top end was nothing more than a thrown together afterthought to be slower than a stripped down turd with a matched custom combo. However, for some reason I am not. Weird...
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
I know, right? I should be embarrassed and humiliated for my full weight pile, where the top end was nothing more than a thrown together afterthought to be slower than a stripped down turd with a matched custom combo. However, for some reason I am not. Weird...
Are you referring to my setup? My second hand heads that were installed as is, my original cam I pulled for some used cam I got for free, my converter that was matched to my old setup, my mail order tune, couple leaky injectors, and god knows what else is definitely a turd. However, its quick enough to make le hating fools mad
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Are you referring to my setup? My second hand heads that were installed as is, my original cam I pulled for some used cam I got for free, my converter that was matched to my old setup, my mail order tune, couple leaky injectors, and god knows what else is definitely a turd. However, its quick enough to make le hating fools mad
Don't forget, its a used N20 spec LE cam.

You have a few nugget short happy meal alright.
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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Don't forgot the hacked down to the chassis weight reduction, however those who do such things do not like to talk about them. lulzz
Who's mad, buttercup? Forgot. Used parts equate to automatic internet lost horsie powers. I can say the same about my 211/219 setup. It too would make those real mad with LE combos running mid 12's with their reported 400rwhp dyno numbers.
Which LE heads would have been more of a benefit to that junkyard cam?

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Old Nov 20, 2014 | 11:36 AM
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Lots of people here comparing times that seem to be ignoring the whole DA effect...... -1500 DA vs +6200 DA is a significant difference in times and traps......
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