Lt1 1992 Silverado
Our friend Ed Wright is one of our most respected and LT1 experienced members and we greatly appreciate him sharing his vast knowledge with us and I look forward to his advice and opinions in this and other threads here on LS1tech.
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Terrible moderation at this site. Terrible.
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He is not my friend, and if he wants my respect he needs to earn it.
Last edited by ChevyOwner; Jan 9, 2015 at 01:36 PM.
Arguing with more knowledgeable people often leads you to disgrace.
Life is filled with pecking orders and you are at the bottom of it right now..
Humble yourself and learn... I have never seen Ed run anybody away from this forum. He ONLY helps and sometimes this means correcting people who are giving bad advise. Also Ed deserves all the respect you can give him. He already earned it and isn't "looking" for respect.
Something too often lost these days is it is possible to disagree on items and agree on others and then still respect someone's experience.
I disagree with Ed on some things, like the simplicity of this for instance but the man still has a LOT of knowledge to share.
I will say sometimes I think he forgets how little knowledge there is outside the circles he travels and sees things from a "race car" perspective when few of us have such a thing.
Sad as it is to say the average shop across the country is not going to be cost effective for something like this. You will spend more making the LT1 fit withOUT the purchase price included than what it will cost to just get another 350 and this is IF you find a decent shop.
Enthusiasts sometimes forget that most of the public pays for labor on everything down to air filter and pcv valve changes. What we see as cheap and simple can quickly become cost prohibitive when paying $75+ an hour labor.
I disagree with Ed on some things, like the simplicity of this for instance but the man still has a LOT of knowledge to share.
I will say sometimes I think he forgets how little knowledge there is outside the circles he travels and sees things from a "race car" perspective when few of us have such a thing.
Sad as it is to say the average shop across the country is not going to be cost effective for something like this. You will spend more making the LT1 fit withOUT the purchase price included than what it will cost to just get another 350 and this is IF you find a decent shop.
Enthusiasts sometimes forget that most of the public pays for labor on everything down to air filter and pcv valve changes. What we see as cheap and simple can quickly become cost prohibitive when paying $75+ an hour labor.
ChevyOwner, if you think that's bullying...well...stop being a baby.
For *** sakes, I remember when bullying was threats of violence or actual violence, or at least maybe an insult or two.
I can't believe anyone thinks they can be bullied over an internet post.
THANKS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!
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Dude if you get that worked up over the internet from someone correcting you and telling you how it is, you have a long road ahead of you. That is not the definition of bullying. There are very knowledgeable guys here and while some may come across as harsh, it gets the point across and helps you learn.
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ChevyOwner you need to have given respect to receive it. You don't have correct information about injector sizes; and want to still give bad advise that running a pcm wrote for 24lb injectors is better than an ecu that had been correctly written for that specific engine/injectors/trans.
Arguing with more knowledgeable people often leads you to disgrace.
Life is filled with pecking orders and you are at the bottom of it right now..
Humble yourself and learn... I have never seen Ed run anybody away from this forum. He ONLY helps and sometimes this means correcting people who are giving bad advise. Also Ed deserves all the respect you can give him. He already earned it and isn't "looking" for respect.
Arguing with more knowledgeable people often leads you to disgrace.
Life is filled with pecking orders and you are at the bottom of it right now..
Humble yourself and learn... I have never seen Ed run anybody away from this forum. He ONLY helps and sometimes this means correcting people who are giving bad advise. Also Ed deserves all the respect you can give him. He already earned it and isn't "looking" for respect.
I, for one, am here because Ed Wright and a few others have a lot to teach and I have a lot learn, even though I owned the car for 20 years and do all my own wrenching.
ChevyOwner, if you think that's bullying...well...stop being a baby.
For *** sakes, I remember when bullying was threats of violence or actual violence, or at least maybe an insult or two.
I can't believe anyone thinks they can be bullied over an internet post.
THANKS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!
ChevyOwner, if you think that's bullying...well...stop being a baby.
For *** sakes, I remember when bullying was threats of violence or actual violence, or at least maybe an insult or two.
I can't believe anyone thinks they can be bullied over an internet post.
THANKS PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM!!!
It's called cyber bullying, and people have committed suicide from it.
Dude if you get that worked up over the internet from someone correcting you and telling you how it is, you have a long road ahead of you. That is not the definition of bullying. There are very knowledgeable guys here and while some may come across as harsh, it gets the point across and helps you learn.
Last edited by ChevyOwner; Jan 9, 2015 at 07:43 PM.
This is a matter of perspective. In my book if you are swapping an engine it WILL be tuned and thus the injector size is not very important. I'm not asking for respect. I am saying he has to earn my respect, and this goes for everyone. I don't care if he earned your respect you are not me. I also never mentioned injectors until after he did. I gave him enough respect to ask the question in the first place. I was not saying I was right I was admitting I did not know, aind asking for the correct information. The rest of his post also had false information.
It's called cyber bullying, and people have committed suicide from it.
I would have been fine if he was "correcting" things I had said, and not being rude to questions asked.
It's called cyber bullying, and people have committed suicide from it.
I would have been fine if he was "correcting" things I had said, and not being rude to questions asked.
I did not see you ask questions, just give some wrong information. Swaps with stock engines don't normally require any custom tuning. Just VATS shut off, and often some emotions codes. You can get by with smaller injectors in batch fire mode. A 1994 injector harness will not take care of sequential injection, as the 1993 Opti doesn't have the same cam position signal needed for sequential injection. More to it than simply plugging in. You could shut off the high resolution codes due to the '93 Opti, in the '94/'95 PCM because it would default to abatch fire mode, but that is not the same.
I did say millions, I did not mean, or expect you to take that literally. Guess I should have just said "a whole bunch". LOL I just looked up production numbers for LT1s using that ECM. Welll over 100,000 units sold with LT1s in 1992 & 19993.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings so badly. Need to use more smiley faces, I guess.
I'm going to make you real happy. I'm out of here. Not much interesting here anymore anyway.
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I am not sure what got you so butt hurt? The last sentence? I mentioned you may have a business (shop) but must not do much engine swap work, since you were mistaken about do much. I re-read everything, and am not sure what you would call cyber bullying. Really?
I did not see you ask questions, just give some wrong information. Swaps with stock engines don't normally require any custom tuning. Just VATS shut off, and often some emotions codes. You can get by with smaller injectors in batch fire mode. A 1994 injector harness will not take care of sequential injection, as the 1993 Opti doesn't have the same cam position signal needed for sequential injection. More to it than simply plugging in. You could shut off the high resolution codes due to the '93 Opti, in the '94/'95 PCM because it would default to abatch fire mode, but that is not the same.
I did say millions, I did not mean, or expect you to take that literally. Guess I should have just said "a whole bunch". LOL I just looked up production numbers for LT1s using that ECM. Welll over 100,000 units sold with LT1s in 1992 & 19993.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings so badly. Need to use more smiley faces, I guess.
I'm going to make you real happy. I'm out of here. Not much interesting here anymore anyway.
I did not see you ask questions, just give some wrong information. Swaps with stock engines don't normally require any custom tuning. Just VATS shut off, and often some emotions codes. You can get by with smaller injectors in batch fire mode. A 1994 injector harness will not take care of sequential injection, as the 1993 Opti doesn't have the same cam position signal needed for sequential injection. More to it than simply plugging in. You could shut off the high resolution codes due to the '93 Opti, in the '94/'95 PCM because it would default to abatch fire mode, but that is not the same.
I did say millions, I did not mean, or expect you to take that literally. Guess I should have just said "a whole bunch". LOL I just looked up production numbers for LT1s using that ECM. Welll over 100,000 units sold with LT1s in 1992 & 19993.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings so badly. Need to use more smiley faces, I guess.
I'm going to make you real happy. I'm out of here. Not much interesting here anymore anyway.
When I got my 1993 Corvette (11/92 on the door) the PO had installed a carburetor. I tried to put the fuel injection back, and in the process I got 5 bad 93 ECMs in a row after that I gave up. Every fuel injection piece for the vette I have dealt with has been bad, and I don't want any else to deal with that.
5 bad pcms in a row sounds about impossible. The previous owner must have really messed it up and you had a hard time finding the problem so you blindly blamed the computer. That or you were hooking something up wrong wrecking them.
Far as the option thing seems Ed is claiming there were 3 and this is the first time I have seem anyone claim that.
There is confusion caused by the 94 Vette and F-body getting the spline drive option while the B-body got the pin drive that year.
Really sad a grown man would think anything going on in this thread is "cyber bullying", really sad indication of how weak and victim mentality our culture has become.
Far as the option thing seems Ed is claiming there were 3 and this is the first time I have seem anyone claim that.
There is confusion caused by the 94 Vette and F-body getting the spline drive option while the B-body got the pin drive that year.
Really sad a grown man would think anything going on in this thread is "cyber bullying", really sad indication of how weak and victim mentality our culture has become.
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5 bad pcms in a row sounds about impossible. The previous owner must have really messed it up and you had a hard time finding the problem so you blindly blamed the computer. That or you were hooking something up wrong wrecking them.
Far as the option thing seems Ed is claiming there were 3 and this is the first time I have seem anyone claim that.
There is confusion caused by the 94 Vette and F-body getting the spline drive option while the B-body got the pin drive that year.
Really sad a grown man would think anything going on in this thread is "cyber bullying", really sad indication of how weak and victim mentality our culture has become.
Far as the option thing seems Ed is claiming there were 3 and this is the first time I have seem anyone claim that.
There is confusion caused by the 94 Vette and F-body getting the spline drive option while the B-body got the pin drive that year.
Really sad a grown man would think anything going on in this thread is "cyber bullying", really sad indication of how weak and victim mentality our culture has become.
I don't find it bullying someone else started that. I find it ironic that no one has said anything to the person that actually started the bullying talk. I was agreeing with the second part of their comments based on past experience, and should have remove the first half but did not.
Holy God...this country has some seriously weak individuals when some dude who cannot get one car repaired contradicts a man who has decades of experiences in this field cries he is being cyber-bullied when he is corrected on his wrong information. You couldn't put the fuel-injection back on because you didn't know what you were doing. "Every fuel injection piece for the vette I have dealt with has been bad, and I don't want any else to deal with that." Impossible. How do you explain the 1000's of 1993 Corvettes on the road still running the factory injection?
I only weep for our future. Please don't commit suicide after being corrected of your wrong information. Really, please don't.
I only weep for our future. Please don't commit suicide after being corrected of your wrong information. Really, please don't.
Folks, let's move forward with this thread in a positive way. It has some good technical info.
Let's keep additional responses about the technical aspect of the topic. I don't wanna shut it down......
And let's all have a cold one!
Let's keep additional responses about the technical aspect of the topic. I don't wanna shut it down......
And let's all have a cold one!