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Old 03-26-2015 | 09:31 AM
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I never said rear wheel horsepower, but know you opened that can of worms I have ported heads port matched intake with a custom ground crane cam with headers 255 fuel pump and I put down 410 rwhp and it costed me only $1000 and did it all the install myself.
Good god man! But I see an Iroc-Z on the market too, $8k at 68k miles. I heard somewhere IROC-Zs were some of the best handling Camaros ever made. It does have the lowly 5.0 V8, is it worth the look and time?
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Old 03-26-2015 | 10:52 AM
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I have a mint unmolested LT1 Z28 with only 23,000 original miles, PM me with your email address and I'll send you pics, can't seem to download my pics to this forum.......det45
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Good god man! But I see an Iroc-Z on the market too, $8k at 68k miles. I heard somewhere IROC-Zs were some of the best handling Camaros ever made. It does have the lowly 5.0 V8, is it worth the look and time?
You're comparing a 200HP boat anchor to a 350+HP all aluminum jewel of an engine....surely you jest

Any 1LE or SS 4th gen would spank a IROC in handling as well....not to mention even comparing to the new Z28 or 1LE SS....not even in the same ballpark!
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You're comparing a 200HP boat anchor to a 350+HP all aluminum jewel of an engine....surely you jest

Any 1LE or SS 4th gen would spank a IROC in handling as well....not to mention even comparing to the new Z28 or 1LE SS....not even in the same ballpark!
And the IrocZ idea goes out the window
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if you decide to get a LT1 car look for a 95-97 car they have a OBG2 PCM they are a lot better for programming. if you look you can buy a car with under 90,000 on the clock for under $3500 mine only has 77,000 miles on it and I paid under $3000 and its very clean! just look for the hidden jewel you will find one. there was a guy on craigslist in minnapolis mn. who had a 1995 Z28 with $88,000 miles for $3200 that's blue book for one

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if you decide to get a LT1 car look for a 95-97 car they have a OBG2 PCM they are a lot better for programming. if you look you can buy a car with under 90,000 on the clock for under $3500 mine only has 77,000 miles on it and I paid under $3000 and its very clean! just look for the hidden jewel you will find one. there was a guy on craigslist in minnapolis mn. who had a 1995 Z28 with $88,000 miles for $3200 that's blue book for one
Eh I decided not to deal on CL with my last car and go dealer only and I paid more than blue book price for it. That was because I got scammed the time before that. But now that I've been on both ends of bad deals, I'm ready to start dealing on CL again I think.
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Originally Posted by chaney1974
if you decide to get a LT1 car look for a 95-97 car they have a OBG2 PCM they are a lot better for programming. if you look you can buy a car with under 90,000 on the clock for under $3500 mine only has 77,000 miles on it and I paid under $3000 and its very clean! just look for the hidden jewel you will find one. there was a guy on craigslist in minnapolis mn. who had a 1995 Z28 with $88,000 miles for $3200 that's blue book for one
I also wanted to try a 3800 V6 bird or camaro and stick a turbo in it but when I hit up ZZP to make me a kit they pretty much refused to be a part of it. So basically an LT1 or LS1 at this point, and wow 88k miles for $3200? Is it okay to go above 130k or no? Many of these cars are kinda beat up.
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Originally Posted by chaney1974
if you decide to get a LT1 car look for a 95-97 car they have a OBG2 PCM they are a lot better for programming. if you look you can buy a car with under 90,000 on the clock for under $3500 mine only has 77,000 miles on it and I paid under $3000 and its very clean! just look for the hidden jewel you will find one. there was a guy on craigslist in minnapolis mn. who had a 1995 Z28 with $88,000 miles for $3200 that's blue book for one
Awh I just went through all the V8 F-bodies in my area and these things are all terrible buys. These guys want like $5k for a 140k miles car, are they serious? smfh
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Awh I just went through all the V8 F-bodies in my area and these things are all terrible buys. These guys want like $5k for a 140k miles car, are they serious? smfh
Prices of 4th gens are going up.
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Awh I just went through all the V8 F-bodies in my area and these things are all terrible buys. These guys want like $5k for a 140k miles car, are they serious? smfh
Asking prices are just that....doesn't mean they are selling for $5k. They are probably just fishing for a sucker. ZZperformance did you a favor, the 3800 is not a performance engine unless it's the L67 supercharged version with forged bottom end.....you would likely spend many thousands of dollars to be on par or slower than a LT1. Some guy has a turbo 3800 Firebird one for sale not too far from here who did this:
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4926133769.html

Still, a LS or LT1 would sound better and be more reliable while having more HP potential.
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Asking prices are just that....doesn't mean they are selling for $5k. They are probably just fishing for a sucker. ZZperformance did you a favor, the 3800 is not a performance engine unless it's the L67 supercharged version with forged bottom end.....you would likely spend many thousands of dollars to be on par or slower than a LT1. Some guy has a turbo 3800 Firebird one for sale not too far from here who did this:
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4926133769.html

Still, a LS or LT1 would sound better and be more reliable while having more HP potential.
Widen your search look further away I do not know where you are from but I know a few real nice deals around northern Wisconsin and Minnesota
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Putting a turbo on a v6 IMO would be the wrong route to go. If you go threw the hassle of putting a turbo on a stock 200 HP v6 at 8 lbs. of boost you would still make a little less power than a stock ls1. It takes about about 15 lbs of boost to double your hp. In turn you would need forged internals. So that 200 turns into 400 HP at the crank thousands of dollars later and headaches later. Not a good bang for your buck. Cam only ls1's will put down 375+ to the wheels with supporting bolt ons

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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Asking prices are just that....doesn't mean they are selling for $5k. They are probably just fishing for a sucker. ZZperformance did you a favor, the 3800 is not a performance engine unless it's the L67 supercharged version with forged bottom end.....you would likely spend many thousands of dollars to be on par or slower than a LT1. Some guy has a turbo 3800 Firebird one for sale not too far from here who did this:
https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/4926133769.html

Still, a LS or LT1 would sound better and be more reliable while having more HP potential.
Funny cause I have an L67 right now that I'm trying to get rid of Good motor, reliable, low mileage car but these W-bodies just can't handle the way I'd like them to handle, that's why I'm going F-body pretty much. The sale is gonna be a tough one though, doesn't seem to have much of a demand for these cars :\
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Putting a turbo on a v6 IMO would be the wrong route to go. If you go threw the hassle of putting a turbo on a stock 200 HP v6 at 8 lbs. of boost you would still make a little less power than a stock ls1. It takes about about 15 lbs of boost to double your hp. In turn you would need forged internals. So that 200 turns into 400 HP at the crank thousands of dollars later and headaches later. Not a good bang for your buck. Cam only ls1's well put down 375+ to the wheels with supporting bolt ons
Completely understand. LS1 would definitely be cheaper and make more sense.
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Originally Posted by chaney1974
if you decide to get a LT1 car look for a 95-97 car they have a OBG2 PCM they are a lot better for programming. if you look you can buy a car with under 90,000 on the clock for under $3500 mine only has 77,000 miles on it and I paid under $3000 and its very clean! just look for the hidden jewel you will find one. there was a guy on craigslist in minnapolis mn. who had a 1995 Z28 with $88,000 miles for $3200 that's blue book for one
1996 is when obd 2 began. The 1995 lt1 is an obd 1 computer that happens to use a 16 pin connector which is what obd 2 vehicles use.
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Originally Posted by Z28soon
Funny cause I have an L67 right now that I'm trying to get rid of Good motor, reliable, low mileage car but these W-bodies just can't handle the way I'd like them to handle, that's why I'm going F-body pretty much. The sale is gonna be a tough one though, doesn't seem to have much of a demand for these cars :\
True...I bought a 99 Regal GS for $400 with 120K on it; it needed a tuneup as it was running on 5 cylinders with the supercharger disconnected (needed supercharger pulley tensioner) and it runs strong for a granny mobile! I put a 3.5" pulley on it a few months ago, and just ordered a off road down pipe, power log, and zzperformance 1.0 tune today to step things up a notch . Nobody suspects the Buick Regal driver ....be prepared for more attention from the cops with a 4th gen
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Originally Posted by chaney1974
Widen your search look further away I do not know where you are from but I know a few real nice deals around northern Wisconsin and Minnesota
Not to highjack but where are they? All the 4th gens around here seem outrageously over priced!
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If you could get this one for around $4,500 it would not be to bad
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/da...912391335.html
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Here's another one
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hn...914263051.html


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