LT1 or LS1?
#61
#62
True...I bought a 99 Regal GS for $400 with 120K on it; it needed a tuneup as it was running on 5 cylinders with the supercharger disconnected (needed supercharger pulley tensioner) and it runs strong for a granny mobile! I put a 3.5" pulley on it a few months ago, and just ordered a off road down pipe, power log, and zzperformance 1.0 tune today to step things up a notch . Nobody suspects the Buick Regal driver ....be prepared for more attention from the cops with a 4th gen
#63
One more, cloth interior tho
http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4894079968.html
http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4894079968.html
A. Rebuilt engines are okay to buy?
B. We can go over 150k?
#64
I would have far more trust in a stock GM built engine than a rebuild by who knows mystery engine...unless it was a GM replacement with warranty in tact. 150K is a lot of miles, but it just depends on if it was taken care of or not. As mentioned, I would just hold out and take your time till you find the right LS1 with the lowest mileage you can afford; you might have to expand your search 100+ miles and the search could weeks/months.
If you want great handling like you mention; you really need to go straight to either a SLP SS, 1LE Z28, WS6 TA/Formula, or a Firehawk (best choice )....they have lots of suspension goodies that are well worth it! You won't be able to replicate on the aftermarket for the price difference. And they are more rare/desireable.
LOL craiglist poster mentions its a "corvette engine"....classic! http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4894079968.html
If you want great handling like you mention; you really need to go straight to either a SLP SS, 1LE Z28, WS6 TA/Formula, or a Firehawk (best choice )....they have lots of suspension goodies that are well worth it! You won't be able to replicate on the aftermarket for the price difference. And they are more rare/desireable.
LOL craiglist poster mentions its a "corvette engine"....classic! http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4894079968.html
Last edited by ahritchie; 03-27-2015 at 01:28 PM.
#65
I would have far more trust in a stock GM built engine than a rebuild by who knows mystery engine...unless it was a GM replacement with warranty in tact. 150K is a lot of miles, but it just depends on if it was taken care of or not. As mentioned, I would just hold out and take your time till you find the right LS1 with the lowest mileage you can afford; you might have to expand your search 100+ miles and the search could weeks/months.
If you want great handling like you mention; you really need to go straight to either a SLP SS, 1LE Z28, WS6 TA/Formula, or a Firehawk (best choice )....they have lots of suspension goodies that are well worth it! You won't be able to replicate on the aftermarket for the price difference. And they are more rare/desireable.
LOL craiglist poster mentions its a "corvette engine"....classic! http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4894079968.html
If you want great handling like you mention; you really need to go straight to either a SLP SS, 1LE Z28, WS6 TA/Formula, or a Firehawk (best choice )....they have lots of suspension goodies that are well worth it! You won't be able to replicate on the aftermarket for the price difference. And they are more rare/desireable.
LOL craiglist poster mentions its a "corvette engine"....classic! http://eauclaire.craigslist.org/cto/4894079968.html
#66
I didn't read much of the links I posted off Craig's list, just fired a few on here for the other Minnesota member on the previous page.
Lol, corvette motor! Are you serious! I will take it!
Lol, corvette motor! Are you serious! I will take it!
#67
Awh dang man it's killen me... I don't know, let me sell off my W-body and let's see what's on the market then :\ I honestly see no alternatives to the Fbodies, GTO has shitty rear and heavy, G8 DOD and heavy, 1st gen CTS-V too expensive, C4 is 2 seater, C5 a 2 seater and expensive, Miata a 2 seater, W-bodies need tranny builds plus going above 300 whp is very expensive and W-bodies can't handle for ****... so it's all down to the LT1 and LS1 Fbodies... which happen to be a hard buy, it's okay, it's only spring and I've got literally months to search!
#68
Awh dang man it's killen me... I don't know, let me sell off my W-body and let's see what's on the market then :\ I honestly see no alternatives to the Fbodies, GTO has shitty rear and heavy, G8 DOD and heavy, 1st gen CTS-V too expensive, C4 is 2 seater, C5 a 2 seater and expensive, Miata a 2 seater, W-bodies need tranny builds plus going above 300 whp is very expensive and W-bodies can't handle for ****... so it's all down to the LT1 and LS1 Fbodies... which happen to be a hard buy, it's okay, it's only spring and I've got literally months to search!
Last edited by 93Z2871805; 03-29-2015 at 09:57 PM.
#69
Pretty much what I stated earlier. In road racing, your money is better spent on safety equipment, tires, brakes, suspension, and track time than worrying about how much power a motor can make.
#70
Well tracks do have massive straights so we do have to make sure that we pick up very quick in the car right? While we're at it though, do you guys have any suggested suspension setup? The only setup I know is the one i stated a couple of times in this thread
#71
Depending on time and money, if you want to build a wicked road car.
Start with a 4th gen chassis. Do all the suspension stuff and a legal cage.
For power look at a turbo 4.3 from a ty/sy. De-stroked for rpm, Aluminum heads, appropriate turbo for spool.
LTx T-56 to handle your power.
9" for the back (ease of gear changes)
Then you can have a motor that make a ton of power really high powerband and a great chassis(albeit not the best when it comes to road racing) and good looks to boot.
And you can honestly say you have the only one of its kind.
Start with a 4th gen chassis. Do all the suspension stuff and a legal cage.
For power look at a turbo 4.3 from a ty/sy. De-stroked for rpm, Aluminum heads, appropriate turbo for spool.
LTx T-56 to handle your power.
9" for the back (ease of gear changes)
Then you can have a motor that make a ton of power really high powerband and a great chassis(albeit not the best when it comes to road racing) and good looks to boot.
And you can honestly say you have the only one of its kind.
#72
And a flat torque curve would help. You'd be able to hold a gear into the corner, and come out fast onto the straight. On our last track outing to VIR, there was a nasty CTS-V (AS) running in the 2:09-2:13's, and some of the Spec Miata's running 2:08's. The V was pulling about 140 at the end of the front straight whereas the Miata's were like 115ish.
#73
I also wanted to try a 3800 V6 bird or camaro and stick a turbo in it but when I hit up ZZP to make me a kit they pretty much refused to be a part of it. So basically an LT1 or LS1 at this point, and wow 88k miles for $3200? Is it okay to go above 130k or no? Many of these cars are kinda beat up.
#74
#75
And a flat torque curve would help. You'd be able to hold a gear into the corner, and come out fast onto the straight. On our last track outing to VIR, there was a nasty CTS-V (AS) running in the 2:09-2:13's, and some of the Spec Miata's running 2:08's. The V was pulling about 140 at the end of the front straight whereas the Miata's were like 115ish.
#76
He was at 2:24's (135 on the straight shifting at 5500). Here's the list of things wrong with it, lol. 1-2 syncros are gone, it was on street tires, and he wasn't revving it out. On the straights the Boss couldn't get around him, albeit, he was running the course a lot quicker (about 15-18 seconds per lap). Point is, once we get the car on slicks, fix the trans, and tune the suspension (it wants to try and bring the rear around with any kind of throttle coming out of the corners), we fully expect 2:0X's. We also need to get some weight out of this pig, lol, it came across the scales at 3450 (w/driver). I think the V was shifting at about 62-6300 and came across the scales at 3600. There were a couple spec Fords right at 2:00, and those NASCAR-like cars running 1:55's.
Last edited by 93Z2871805; 03-29-2015 at 10:02 PM.
#77
He was at 2:24's (135 on the straight shifting at 5500). Here's the list of things wrong with it, lol. 1-2 syncros are gone, it was on street tires, and he wasn't revving it out. On the straights the Boss couldn't get around him, albeit, he was running the course a lot quicker (about 15-18 seconds per lap). Point is, once we get the car on slicks, fix the trans, and tune the suspension (it wants to try and bring the rear around with any kind of throttle coming out of the corners), we fully expect 2:0X's. We also need to get some weight out of this pig, lol, it came across the scales at 3450 (w/driver). I think the V was shifting at about 62-6300 and came across the scales at 3600. There were a couple spec Fords right at 2:00, and those NASCAR-like cars running 1:55's.
#78
#79
What?? Those numbers are crazy! Is this the same course as the one the Porsche 918 ran like 2:40something? Or is it a shorter course? And 3450 w/ the driver doesn't sound all too bad. And hit me up with that suspension setup please Is he thinking along the lines of coilovers or is he thinking springs/struts setup?
#80
lol Corvette engine, but we're good for just under 100k right? Also, I thought Strano springs w/ koni shocks and massive tires (square) were the answer w/ 35/22 front/rear sway bars as far as handling went? As far as search time goes, I've got plenty! Can wait weeks/months no problem.
These cars are getting old so no matter the miles, they will more than likely need a little work. Rubber parts don't last forever, even on a low mile car. And you can almost bet, a car with low low miles that barely gets driven will develop some sort of fluid leak once you start to drive it a lot. It just happens. Just look for clean examples that you can tell were taken care of.