Trying to get some flowmasters..
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Trying to get some flowmasters.. Well I currently drive a 1995 z28 and I am on a low budget (700), I found these flowmasters online and wanted to get everybody's opinion about them.Has anybody mess with them before? If so, does performance increase? And I've notice the tips on these exhaust are tilded down slightly, does anybody got pictures of them on your camaros and trans ams? Thanks.
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/flo-...FZIkgQod2wsFfA
http://m.summitracing.com/parts/flo-...FZIkgQod2wsFfA
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For $700 you could find a used GMMG catback. Got mine for $530 plus shipping, or you could get the system brand new from www.madhammer2.com with your $700 budget and have some of that $700 still left to spend. Gary from Madhammer made the systems for GMMG when they were still in business, but now he pretty much makes them to order I think. Waaay better than a Slowmaster in performance, sound, and durability.
Here's GMMG on my stock LT1 Camaro.
Here's GMMG on my stock LT1 Camaro.
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Back 10-11 years ago, I was 16 years old and thought Flowmaster was the **** due to their marketing on every car tv show/magazine that I came across. I bought that same system for my '95 Formula and boy did I regret it. It's possibly the ugliest catback you could put on these cars, sounds terrible compared to other options, the aluminized steel rusted and fell apart on me after a year and I found out it's a pretty bad system for making power. I bet it's no better or heck maybe even worse than stock. Ran it both with and without headers.
Did my research and forked out the $850 at that time for a GMMG. Despite being a lot of money for a high school kid, it was worth it. I've had a few different catbacks over the years and the GMMG/Madhammer was my favorite. Sound is subjective however so I would listen to various YouTube clips if I were you.
A couple years after that I ditched catbacks all together and went with true duals and I never looked back. Moral of the story...don't waste your money and time on the Flowmaster system like I did. If you really really want that sound bad enough then fab up true duals with 40 series mufflers. Otherwise, get a stainless steel catback that sounds and looks good to you.
Did my research and forked out the $850 at that time for a GMMG. Despite being a lot of money for a high school kid, it was worth it. I've had a few different catbacks over the years and the GMMG/Madhammer was my favorite. Sound is subjective however so I would listen to various YouTube clips if I were you.
A couple years after that I ditched catbacks all together and went with true duals and I never looked back. Moral of the story...don't waste your money and time on the Flowmaster system like I did. If you really really want that sound bad enough then fab up true duals with 40 series mufflers. Otherwise, get a stainless steel catback that sounds and looks good to you.
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I've got the Flowmasters 17133 kit and I'm happy with the sound of it. I get compliments on the sound of the car left and right. However I do have long tubes and a CC503 helping it out.
My biggest grip with it is that they changed the mounting locations of one of the hangers for some reason on the left pipe. This has resulted in the system not fitting without cutting and re-welding the hanger....which my Dad did for me. Thread on it here....
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/exha...atback-639879/
Here is how it sounds....
I very well may go with something different next time. Ha ha, mainly because I'm still sore at them over the hanger mounting problem. LoL....yes, yes, I know..... u mad???
My biggest grip with it is that they changed the mounting locations of one of the hangers for some reason on the left pipe. This has resulted in the system not fitting without cutting and re-welding the hanger....which my Dad did for me. Thread on it here....
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/exha...atback-639879/
Here is how it sounds....
I very well may go with something different next time. Ha ha, mainly because I'm still sore at them over the hanger mounting problem. LoL....yes, yes, I know..... u mad???
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For $700 you could find a used GMMG catback. Got mine for $530 plus shipping, or you could get the system brand new from www.madhammer2.com with your $700 budget and have some of that $700 still left to spend. Gary from Madhammer made the systems for GMMG when they were still in business, but now he pretty much makes them to order I think. Waaay better than a Slowmaster in performance, sound, and durability.
Here's GMMG on my stock LT1 Camaro.
https://youtu.be/lln2CgIht2s
Here's GMMG on my stock LT1 Camaro.
https://youtu.be/lln2CgIht2s
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Back 10-11 years ago, I was 16 years old and thought Flowmaster was the **** due to their marketing on every car tv show/magazine that I came across. I bought that same system for my '95 Formula and boy did I regret it. It's possibly the ugliest catback you could put on these cars, sounds terrible compared to other options, the aluminized steel rusted and fell apart on me after a year and I found out it's a pretty bad system for making power. I bet it's no better or heck maybe even worse than stock. Ran it both with and without headers.
Did my research and forked out the $850 at that time for a GMMG. Despite being a lot of money for a high school kid, it was worth it. I've had a few different catbacks over the years and the GMMG/Madhammer was my favorite. Sound is subjective however so I would listen to various YouTube clips if I were you.
A couple years after that I ditched catbacks all together and went with true duals and I never looked back. Moral of the story...don't waste your money and time on the Flowmaster system like I did. If you really really want that sound bad enough then fab up true duals with 40 series mufflers. Otherwise, get a stainless steel catback that sounds and looks good to you.
Did my research and forked out the $850 at that time for a GMMG. Despite being a lot of money for a high school kid, it was worth it. I've had a few different catbacks over the years and the GMMG/Madhammer was my favorite. Sound is subjective however so I would listen to various YouTube clips if I were you.
A couple years after that I ditched catbacks all together and went with true duals and I never looked back. Moral of the story...don't waste your money and time on the Flowmaster system like I did. If you really really want that sound bad enough then fab up true duals with 40 series mufflers. Otherwise, get a stainless steel catback that sounds and looks good to you.
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I'll have another video made once I get longtubes put on the car. No matter what you decide to do, invest in a stainless exhaust system. It's worth it.
Brothers car is running the Flowmaster 80 on his camaro. Its got pacesetter long tubes and when it was catless it sounded really good. Even on the dyno it make good power for a bolt on car. Right at 300hp and 320tq with the longtubes.
I have played with different exhaust. My Magnaflow was garbage. The tone was horrible as well as the fit. I also don't complain about drone but it had drone. I have an old school borla and that is also junk. If my piece of junk ever gets running I was able to buy a Corsa muffler for $200. That will be going onto the car. However when I was 19 I really wanted a slp loud mouth. Mmm straight pipe. But now with the corsa I could just do an electric cutout.
I have played with different exhaust. My Magnaflow was garbage. The tone was horrible as well as the fit. I also don't complain about drone but it had drone. I have an old school borla and that is also junk. If my piece of junk ever gets running I was able to buy a Corsa muffler for $200. That will be going onto the car. However when I was 19 I really wanted a slp loud mouth. Mmm straight pipe. But now with the corsa I could just do an electric cutout.
http://www.mufflex-performance.com/1993-1997-35-single-cat-system/33-93-97-single-35-cat-flowmaster.html
https://youtu.be/kebDiS8weAM
I have the 4in single dual 3in out for the 396 stroker if I ever get it finished lol
https://youtu.be/kebDiS8weAM
I have the 4in single dual 3in out for the 396 stroker if I ever get it finished lol
Since buying this car, I have had the following setups:
1. Flowmaster--garbage, I hated the sound--it only sounded good at idle to me.
2. Loudmouth 1--Not bad, but too raspy and "tin" sounding for me.
3. Loudmouth 2--Pretty good, I liked it much better than the Loudmouth 1. But, it had a little too much glass pack sound to me.
4. GMMG--If God built an exhaust for LT1s it would be the GMMG. Sounds good everywhere, from idle to WOT to cruising. And, it is stainless steel to boot.
1. Flowmaster--garbage, I hated the sound--it only sounded good at idle to me.
2. Loudmouth 1--Not bad, but too raspy and "tin" sounding for me.
3. Loudmouth 2--Pretty good, I liked it much better than the Loudmouth 1. But, it had a little too much glass pack sound to me.
4. GMMG--If God built an exhaust for LT1s it would be the GMMG. Sounds good everywhere, from idle to WOT to cruising. And, it is stainless steel to boot.
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For $700 you could find a used GMMG catback. Got mine for $530 plus shipping, or you could get the system brand new from www.madhammer2.com with your $700 budget and have some of that $700 still left to spend. Gary from Madhammer made the systems for GMMG when they were still in business, but now he pretty much makes them to order I think. Waaay better than a Slowmaster in performance, sound, and durability.
Here's GMMG on my stock LT1 Camaro.
https://youtu.be/lln2CgIht2s
Here's GMMG on my stock LT1 Camaro.
https://youtu.be/lln2CgIht2s
That is a good question. When I first installed the GMMG with the Long Tubes and no cats it was too loud for me. Still sounded good, but would give me a headache. I put 2 magnaflow bullet cats in and that made it perfect. So, I would guess the car in the video has cats, at the very least.
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