Afr vs Ai vs Le heads
08-10-2018, 09:48 AM
#21
Village Troll 
iTrader: (2)
^^^ I thought I warned you they would be busy, and also LTx stuff is very low on their list of priorities. Alot of the controversy about LE came from quality control and underperforming combinations. Some did well, others were shoddy. Almost seemed to be a crap shoot with them. The arguments stemmed from those monetarily and emotionally vested in LE's products. I've seen these complaints dating back to the mid 2000's.
I agree with Puck as far as any of them will do for 500hp. Don't forget LPE, either. I've had two combinations using their heads that hit just north of 500hp, but like AI, they aren't keen on LT components anymore. I have no idea if their pricing is competitive either. I'd also suggest Gallant Technical Performance, but they seem to have fallen off the face of the earth.
I agree with Puck as far as any of them will do for 500hp. Don't forget LPE, either. I've had two combinations using their heads that hit just north of 500hp, but like AI, they aren't keen on LT components anymore. I have no idea if their pricing is competitive either. I'd also suggest Gallant Technical Performance, but they seem to have fallen off the face of the earth.
08-11-2018, 01:09 PM
#22
There is also TEA. Brian Tooley was the man responsible there and has since moved on. I was always impressed with TEA porting results. They might have moved on from LT1's as most have. If you call they might still have the CNC program.
I don't think Brian Tooley (at his new company) ports LT1s anymore but might be worth a phone call or email.
I don't think Brian Tooley (at his new company) ports LT1s anymore but might be worth a phone call or email.
08-12-2018, 08:52 PM
#25
TECH Apprentice
I have a set of Lingenfelter hand ported 185cc heads and a port matched LT1 intake I would sell. I moved to a set of Mamo hand finished AFR 210 Comp port heads and a port match edelbrock LT4 intake. Heads have Manley 2.02/1.60 valves, titanium retainers and Patriot Gold Extreme springs. $550 shipped for heads and intake.
08-12-2018, 09:42 PM
#26
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I have a set of Lingenfelter hand ported 185cc heads and a port matched LT1 intake I would sell. I moved to a set of Mamo hand finished AFR 210 Comp port heads and a port match edelbrock LT4 intake. Heads have Manley 2.02/1.60 valves, titanium retainers and Patriot Gold Extreme springs. $550 shipped for heads and intake.
08-13-2018, 01:40 PM
#29
15 days and no replay from AI. I dont give a **** how busy they are in terms of at least responding to emails. A simple "were sorry, but we have too much work to manage AND at thise time and we wont be able to service you. But thanks for the interest" would be very professional and appropriate here. Am i wrong here?
So I looked up the porting service at TEA as recommended. Am I seeing this correct? That they want $730 for the service. That seems very inexpensive. Maybe its per head. So Brian Tooley used to work at AI. Any chance its the same porting process they are doing there? I plan on calling all these guys you reccomended, but just have been so damn busy. But a little heads up going into the call, would be helpful. SS RRR, do you have a contact you worked with at LPE?
So I looked up the porting service at TEA as recommended. Am I seeing this correct? That they want $730 for the service. That seems very inexpensive. Maybe its per head. So Brian Tooley used to work at AI. Any chance its the same porting process they are doing there? I plan on calling all these guys you reccomended, but just have been so damn busy. But a little heads up going into the call, would be helpful. SS RRR, do you have a contact you worked with at LPE?
08-13-2018, 05:02 PM
#31
^^^ I thought I warned you they would be busy, and also LTx stuff is very low on their list of priorities. Alot of the controversy about LE came from quality control and underperforming 7combinations. Some did well, others were shoddy. Almost seemed to be a crap shoot with them. The arguments stemmed from those monetarily and emotionally vested in LE's products. I've seen these complaints dating back to the mid 2000's.
I agree with Puck as far as any of them will do for 500hp. Don't forget LPE, either. I've had two combinations using their heads that hit just north of 500hp, but like AI, they aren't keen on LT components anymore. I have no idea if their pricing is competitive either. I'd also suggest Gallant Technical Performance, but they seem to have fallen off the face of the earth.
I agree with Puck as far as any of them will do for 500hp. Don't forget LPE, either. I've had two combinations using their heads that hit just north of 500hp, but like AI, they aren't keen on LT components anymore. I have no idea if their pricing is competitive either. I'd also suggest Gallant Technical Performance, but they seem to have fallen off the face of the earth.
Last edited by PARMY; 08-13-2018 at 05:03 PM. Reason: Because
08-13-2018, 05:35 PM
#32
As far as I know Brian Tooley was at TEA (was he the founder??) and left a few years ago and started another company which bears his name. TEA did port stock LT1 heads and LT1 Trickflows. The price was right and they performed but were not very popular as LE and AI get all the hype around here.
08-13-2018, 07:56 PM
#33
TECH Apprentice
The car actually is just getting finished. Had a guy do it because I was busy building a different car. Car got AFR’s, ported eddy intake, ewp, a/c delete, abs Delete, McLeod twin disk, fuel pump rewire, tubular upper and lower control arms, k-member, canton oil pan, welded sub frame connectors and a monoblade TB. Will find out shortly how much of a difference this all made.
08-14-2018, 09:50 AM
#36
TECH Fanatic
I always thought that if I ever decided to have my heads ported I would send them to AI. I guess it will be a bit disappointing if that's no longer an option. Having said that, the older I get I'm starting to think I might be satisfied with whatever performance gains I'm getting from a CAI, Headers, Exhaust, Springs & Shocks.
08-14-2018, 11:38 AM
#38
On The Tree
I always thought that if I ever decided to have my heads ported I would send them to AI. I guess it will be a bit disappointing if that's no longer an option. Having said that, the older I get I'm starting to think I might be satisfied with whatever performance gains I'm getting from a CAI, Headers, Exhaust, Springs & Shocks.
08-14-2018, 12:30 PM
#39
From AI's home page- no old school LTx until end of summer. Just Direct Injection new generation LTx work until then. Note that some shops mentioned near the bottom may have stock on hand...
News and Updates:
Summer 2018
News and Updates:
Summer 2018
We are fortunate to be extremely busy. As many of you guys know from the long responses I've often sent out, I tend to enjoy talking with everyone. However, I have less time to be in the office lately. Email responses will often be delayed. In order to keep the backlog of work from getting too long, we're making a few changes for the time being to help us keep up. Thank you guys so much for working with us, and keeping us so busy over the years!
- Current Backlog for most types of LSx & DI LT-X CNC work is 1-2 months
- Only LSx & DI LT-X jobs for now. Run of old school LT likely end of Summer.
- Only doing full CNC porting jobs - no Performance Rebuilds
- No one-off cams - we will keep a few popular grinds on hand
- If you know you want CNC work, you are welcome to get your heads inbound & shoot us an email at sales@advancedinduction.com with info on what you're sending in, your project, goals, tracking #'s, your return shipping address, etc. With your heads in hand we can then get them in line for work, and invoice you once we have a chance to inspect them during prep for CNC work. If you have blown up, modified, or damaged cores, please wait until we can respond via email.
Please be sure the name you use in your email is written on the box & put a note inside with your name, email, etc!
Check out the Packing Tips before sending in heads.
Keep in mind, some of our shops / builders like Race Proven Motorsports, heintzracing@gmail.com, PCM of NC, Complete Street Performance, etc. often have heads already available or currently in process. If you are working with an engine builder or shop, we're happy to do what we can to coordinate schedules with them. We are always looking for competent and trustworthy installers we can send customers to for a turnkey experience.
08-14-2018, 07:26 PM
#40
Personally, I've had the most (and consistent) success with Advanced Induction and AFR heads (their competition ported program) on my many combinations over the years.
If anyone is interested, I am getting ready to sell a very nice set of low mile, AI 215cc Trickflow heads along with the matching AI ported LT1 intake manifold. Great deal, no wait
Drop me a PM if interested.
If anyone is interested, I am getting ready to sell a very nice set of low mile, AI 215cc Trickflow heads along with the matching AI ported LT1 intake manifold. Great deal, no wait
Drop me a PM if interested.