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Old May 11, 2020 | 08:47 AM
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So I have been tracking this issue down for sometime now and I am lost. The car runs perfect, pulls hard, up until around 5K then it starts missing and bucking like I've hit a rev limiter. I've checked the plugs, gapped to .045, I have check the wires, one of the boot terminals was corroded, and changed the coil with a new Delphi unit. The Opti was rebuilt by the Ebay guy everyone recommends also. So what else could I check? I've checked the fuel pressure as well, around 40 PSI from idle to WOT (read that with a cam it can be a smidge less due to change in vacuum from the cam?) Anything else I can check before I burn this thing to the ground LMAO!
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Old May 11, 2020 | 08:57 AM
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I was going to opti but since you say the ebay guy rebuilt it....have heard nothing but good things about his optis

have you tugged on/moved the wires going into the 4 pin connector top of opti with the car running to see if the motor stumbles?

confirm all the grounds on DS head near coil are solid (read wire is not broken under insulation near crimp)
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Old May 11, 2020 | 09:35 AM
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I’m still going to say opti. Had one do the exact same thing only at 6200rpm. Chased that problem for a year before swapping a different one. Changed the cap/rotor prior to no avail.
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Old May 11, 2020 | 05:08 PM
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yeah exact same thing when I bought the exploding wallet MSD opti several years ago. High RPM breakup

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have you contacted the ebay guy?

if you sent it back he could test it...assuming his stuff has a warranty
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Old May 12, 2020 | 10:53 AM
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Ok, i'll try and get a hold of the guy. I'll check grounds as well, but to be honest if its the Opti again i'm just gonna do the Torqhead 24X swap and be done with it. I can just get the bare bone kit and fab my own brackets anyway.
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Old May 12, 2020 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 94_LT1_TransAm
Ok, i'll try and get a hold of the guy. I'll check grounds as well, but to be honest if its the Opti again i'm just gonna do the Torqhead 24X swap and be done with it. I can just get the bare bone kit and fab my own brackets anyway.
sadly had my 24x kit ordered then this pandemic happened and needed that cash elsewhere. So had to pickup another opti instead. I'd bet it's the opti as well.. any chance it's valvefloat?
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Old May 12, 2020 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bengtson95
. any chance it's valvefloat?
^^^^possible. Although valve float feels like the car just stops making power aka "nose over" vs backfire which is more commonly associated with opti fail. But tired springs certainly will make the car feel like a stumble and won't rev higher
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Old May 12, 2020 | 03:58 PM
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^^^^possible. Although valve float feels like the car just stops making power aka "nose over" vs backfire which is more commonly associated with opti fail. But tired springs certainly will make the car feel like a stumble and won't rev higher
Ahh okay a few years back I was definetly experiencing some kind of backfire and I would always let off the gas because it caught me off guard. That's a good example
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Old May 12, 2020 | 04:09 PM
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I don't think its valve float tbh, the stumble/misfire sounds almost like a car using 2 step.
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Old May 12, 2020 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 94_LT1_TransAm
........but to be honest if its the Opti again i'm just gonna do the Torqhead 24X swap and be done with it.......
As the guys from Nike would say; "Just Do It!"

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Old May 20, 2020 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ******
I was going to opti but since you say the ebay guy rebuilt it....have heard nothing but good things about his optis

have you tugged on/moved the wires going into the 4 pin connector top of opti with the car running to see if the motor stumbles?

confirm all the grounds on DS head near coil are solid (read wire is not broken under insulation near crimp)
Just an update... I've checked the grounds near the coil look OK, (tested with a multi-meter) I have contacted the ebay guy about testing the opti. He said no problem and it would be free of charge to test it! I have been doing some exhaust mods while the car is down and when I let it pull itself with just the LTs and Y Pipe on (no muffler) it sounds like its tripping over itself at 1500 rpm (missing) so I bet its probably the opti.... Ugh.... oh well 24x time it is lol
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Are the valve springs stock or did you upgrade them when you installed the cam? If the springs were replaced how long ago/miles?
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Old May 21, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Germansheperd1
Are the valve springs stock or did you upgrade them when you installed the cam? If the springs were replaced how long ago/miles?
The springs are definitely not stock, I replaced them maybe 4 years ago??? Just mostly drag strip passed and short drives to and from work. I would upload a video but it's not an approved attachment... It seriously just feels like a misfire. It still pulls past the breakup from 5000 to 6300, but it's just really rough like when a opti slowly dies. Kinda hard to explain...
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Old May 21, 2020 | 01:26 PM
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If thats the case I’d guess it is ignition related. Rule #1 check opti.
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Old May 21, 2020 | 02:04 PM
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Usually valve float presents itself as power quickly falling off and not really sputtering. Ignition breakup and valve float can be easily detected on a dyno, if that’s an option.
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 08:41 AM
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Something else to consider.... If I only give the car say 90-95% throttle, it wont break up and power through where it normally does. pulls strong through it also... This makes no sense to me...
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If it's the opti u might be able to get a legit Mitsubishi sensor from rock auto... I got exactly what's in picture maybe 1 month ago.and put a msd cap and rotor on it....so far so good.
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Originally Posted by Bengtson95
If it's the opti u might be able to get a legit Mitsubishi sensor from rock auto... I got exactly what's in picture maybe 1 month ago.and put a msd cap and rotor on it....so far so good.
Went ahead and just bought a new Opti just so I can get a few passes in at the track this year. No more upper RPM Breakup! I can't wait to just get rid of the Opti once and for all with the Torqhead later this year.
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Old Jul 9, 2020 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 94_LT1_TransAm
Went ahead and just bought a new Opti just so I can get a few passes in at the track this year. No more upper RPM Breakup! I can't wait to just get rid of the Opti once and for all with the Torqhead later this year.
hope it works out! Just broke-in my rear end so I'll be pulling up to redline shortly! Car runs great with the rock auto opti so far
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Awesome! Yeah, I hope it lives long enough for the remaining racing season. I guess the Opti has just been that bad for awhile now. Since I put my new one on, it's a whole new beast lol
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