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Old Jan 5, 2023 | 03:14 PM
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these are the install instructions that come with pump. Electrical is brief. You want a relay that is triggered with key on (IGN) and a good, fused power source like the AUX post on fuse block if your car has that

WP118 INSTALL REV A-65.indd (meziere.com)

I suspect there are specific 4th gen relay install videos...but some are scary wrong


YOU DO NOT NEED TO TAP AND THREAD THE WEEP HOLE. THE FREEZE PLUG BLOCKS THAT PASSAGE. you do not need to remove the WP drive spline from timing cover

Wiring for Vette, similar idea for Camaro

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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ******
these are the install instructions that come with pump. Electrical is brief. You want a relay that is triggered with key on (IGN) and a good, fused power source like the AUX post on fuse block if your car has that

WP118 INSTALL REV A-65.indd (meziere.com)

I suspect there are specific 4th gen relay install videos...but some are scary wrong

https://youtu.be/xUnnKblUj2Q

YOU DO NOT NEED TO TAP AND THREAD THE WEEP HOLE. THE FREEZE PLUG BLOCKS THAT PASSAGE. you do not need to remove the WP drive spline from timing cover

Wiring for Vette, similar idea for Camaro

https://youtu.be/DOeCkHOslHg
Seems easy enough. Currently trying to figure out which keyed source to use then I should be good. Thanks for your help man!
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 08:00 AM
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I keyed into the ignition fuse under the hood so when my ignition is on the pump turns on.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 350 groundpounder
I keyed into the ignition fuse under the hood so when my ignition is on the pump turns on.
Yea a few people told me to do that! I should have everything setup this weekend hopefully. Thanks for your help sir. Have a good day!
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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 07:53 PM
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Some other things to consider
You can also wire the EWP relay to trigger off the fuel pump relay so it only runs when the fuel pump is running. That way if you ever need to have your ignition on for an extended time with the engine not running, the EWP isn't running the whole time. Good for when you're working on the car or when you're reprogramming, etc.. Otherwise be careful if you ever disconnect the pump wiring or pull the EWP fuse (if you have one) to keep it (EWP) off, cause you might forget to put the fuse back, then it might overheat, and that happens fast if you're driving it. And its easy enough to put additional switches to turn the EWP on and the fans on if you want to cool the engine down while it isn't running like when you're in between runs at the track or bleeding the coolant system.

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Old Jan 13, 2023 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Blown 95 TA
Some other things to consider
You can also wire the EWP relay to trigger off the fuel pump relay so it only runs when the fuel pump is running. That way if you ever need to have your ignition on for an extended time with the engine not running, the EWP isn't running the whole time. Good for when you're working on the car or when you're reprogramming, etc.. Otherwise be careful if you ever disconnect the pump wiring or pull the EWP fuse (if you have one) to keep it (EWP) off, cause you might forget to put the fuse back, then it might overheat, and that happens fast if you're driving it. And its easy enough to put additional switches to turn the EWP on and the fans on if you want to cool the engine down while it isn't running like when you're in between runs at the track or bleeding the coolant system.
Yessir thank you for your insight! I got my wires setup and stuff I should have everything buttoned up by Monday or Tuesday. The wires went well. I did some wires while I was at work so when I came home I just tapped it in. I have it through the ignition since this is my secondary car. I dont have any reason to just leave the ignition on. Thanks for your help again!
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Old Jan 14, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Blown 95 TA
Some other things to consider
You can also wire the EWP relay to trigger off the fuel pump relay so it only runs when the fuel pump is running. That way if you ever need to have your ignition on for an extended time with the engine not running, the EWP isn't running the whole time. Good for when you're working on the car or when you're reprogramming, etc.. Otherwise be careful if you ever disconnect the pump wiring or pull the EWP fuse (if you have one) to keep it (EWP) off, cause you might forget to put the fuse back, then it might overheat, and that happens fast if you're driving it. And its easy enough to put additional switches to turn the EWP on and the fans on if you want to cool the engine down while it isn't running like when you're in between runs at the track or bleeding the coolant system.
Good points. I have mine wired up with an ignition trigger because of it being convenient on cooling the engine down at the track with the fans running on a manual switch. Last tune i had done with this newer engine we forgot to disconnect the w/p and while uploading a new tune the car battery died and we bricked the PCM.
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Old Jan 15, 2023 | 10:56 AM
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I got everything buttoned up and running. Just have to get more coolant and bleed the air but the fan was running strong. I wish I could have hid the wires a bit more but I'm not complaining! Had to trim the fan shroud a decent amount but its not noticable unless I tell someone is did. I appreciate everyone who helped me with this process! Hopefully I don't have to worry about my water pump failing for a while. If I remember I will reply with how the first cruise goes! Thanks again!
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I have never had overheating issues with my EWP in 22 years. 118 degrees Vegas with AC on, no issues

You need to gut the stock WP housing and install the Meziere on it. Instructions come with EWP. You do need to wire up a relay for the EWP

You can just leave the WP drive gear installed in motor. The spline collar for the mechanical WP will not be used
Both of my buddies with LT1's have had their EWP for just as long and has never had any problems either.
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Since I am using a Terminator X, I am using an output that is setup to ground the relay when the coolant temp is at least 80 degrees and the engine RPM is at least 500. That way, the pump isn't drawing current during cranking and isn't running with just the ignition. I can also open up the program and command it on whenever I want.
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All great replies and I agree as well. Had one on my Impala for many years. The only issue I had was it would sometimes blow the inline fuse. So I replaced the fuse with a 2 blade breaker. The best part about a EWP is that, unlike a mechanical pump that varies with rpm, it flows the same no matter what. Which it make bleeding the cooling system on an LT1 simple. You don't even have to start the car.
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All great replies and I agree as well. Had one on my Impala for many years. The only issue I had was it would sometimes blow the inline fuse. So I replaced the fuse with a 2 blade breaker. The best part about a EWP is that, unlike a mechanical pump that varies with rpm, it flows the same no matter what. Which it make bleeding the cooling system on an LT1 simple. You don't even have to start the car.
You ever figure out why it would blow the fuse before switching to a 2 blade breaker? Just curious.
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